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by GSDtravels on 13 March 2013 - 00:03
Can you even tell good from evil Shtal?
by gouda on 13 March 2013 - 00:03
Well Hank
Do you suppose that God appreciates a minister of the gosple spending 100,000,000 dollars on a building.
Joel has bought very expensive cars in the last few year,I mean very expensive.
He has spent a tremendoes amount on jewelry,all on Gods money while millions
of children go to school without breakfast.
Did you know that 100,000.000 dollars could heal every person with leprosy in the world,thousands of Christians have that disease in a few countrys
around the world.
Did you know that Joels money {GODS MONEY} COULD BRING EVERY JEW back to the land God promised his chosen people.
Did you know that eighty percent of those people live in poverty and sickness in Siberea. Did you know that
Joels money {GODS MONEY} COULD FEED THOSE CHOSEN PEOPLE AND BUY MED'S FOR THEM.
The Bible far from stressing the spiritual benefits of wealth,encourages us to be content with what
we have. We are told, Keep your lives free from the love of money,and be content with what we have HEB.13:5.
IN FACT,IT OFTEN WARNS ABOUT THE PERILS OF MONEY,MATT.6:24,Js. 5:1-5.
The Apostle Paul suffered loss of all things PHIL. 3:7-8..Jesus said, You cannot serve both God and Money.
Paul noted that most Christians were poor and had nothing 2CORR. 6:10. Paul said not wealth but the suffering of Christ are ours in abundance
2CORR.1:5. If Joel and all the prosperity teachings really came from the Lord,why did the Lord Himself and His Deciples end up poor and martyred?
PAUL OLSO SAID THAT GREED WAS THE SAME AS IDOLATRY Col.3:5. The Bible teaches we are to place Gods will first
in our lives not self will. We cannot write our own ticket with God. And this is the confidence which we have before Him,
that,if we ask anything according to His will,He hears us . Even Jesus Himself did not demand of God but said if you are willing.
Paul himself said,if the Lord wills 1CORR.4:19 He referred to those who supposed that godliness {religion} was a means of financial gain
and he said,For we have brought nothing into the world,so we cannot take anything out of it either.
And if we have food and covering,with these we shall be content.. But those who want to get rich fall into temptation and a snare and many foolish and
harmful desires which plunge men into ruin and destruction.For the love of money is a root of all sorts of evil,and some by longing for it
HAVE WANDERED AWAY FROM THE FAITH,AND PIERCED THEMSLVES WITH MANY PANGS 1 TIM.6:7-11.
GOUDA
Do you suppose that God appreciates a minister of the gosple spending 100,000,000 dollars on a building.
Joel has bought very expensive cars in the last few year,I mean very expensive.
He has spent a tremendoes amount on jewelry,all on Gods money while millions
of children go to school without breakfast.
Did you know that 100,000.000 dollars could heal every person with leprosy in the world,thousands of Christians have that disease in a few countrys
around the world.
Did you know that Joels money {GODS MONEY} COULD BRING EVERY JEW back to the land God promised his chosen people.
Did you know that eighty percent of those people live in poverty and sickness in Siberea. Did you know that
Joels money {GODS MONEY} COULD FEED THOSE CHOSEN PEOPLE AND BUY MED'S FOR THEM.
The Bible far from stressing the spiritual benefits of wealth,encourages us to be content with what
we have. We are told, Keep your lives free from the love of money,and be content with what we have HEB.13:5.
IN FACT,IT OFTEN WARNS ABOUT THE PERILS OF MONEY,MATT.6:24,Js. 5:1-5.
The Apostle Paul suffered loss of all things PHIL. 3:7-8..Jesus said, You cannot serve both God and Money.
Paul noted that most Christians were poor and had nothing 2CORR. 6:10. Paul said not wealth but the suffering of Christ are ours in abundance
2CORR.1:5. If Joel and all the prosperity teachings really came from the Lord,why did the Lord Himself and His Deciples end up poor and martyred?
PAUL OLSO SAID THAT GREED WAS THE SAME AS IDOLATRY Col.3:5. The Bible teaches we are to place Gods will first
in our lives not self will. We cannot write our own ticket with God. And this is the confidence which we have before Him,
that,if we ask anything according to His will,He hears us . Even Jesus Himself did not demand of God but said if you are willing.
Paul himself said,if the Lord wills 1CORR.4:19 He referred to those who supposed that godliness {religion} was a means of financial gain
and he said,For we have brought nothing into the world,so we cannot take anything out of it either.
And if we have food and covering,with these we shall be content.. But those who want to get rich fall into temptation and a snare and many foolish and
harmful desires which plunge men into ruin and destruction.For the love of money is a root of all sorts of evil,and some by longing for it
HAVE WANDERED AWAY FROM THE FAITH,AND PIERCED THEMSLVES WITH MANY PANGS 1 TIM.6:7-11.
GOUDA
by Shtal on 13 March 2013 - 00:03
GSDtravels,
God is equitable/righteous - and If God did indeed tried to save tare-people from hell then Satan would automatically accused God for being unjust since tare-people belong to Satan...(And God is perfect he cannot be unjust).
Shtal.
God is equitable/righteous - and If God did indeed tried to save tare-people from hell then Satan would automatically accused God for being unjust since tare-people belong to Satan...(And God is perfect he cannot be unjust).
Shtal.
by GSDtravels on 13 March 2013 - 01:03
So, you agree with the video I posted then, right?
by Shtal on 13 March 2013 - 01:03
Here you go...The truth!
by desert dog on 13 March 2013 - 02:03
Gouda, I know your heart is in the right place, but you are the accuser in this case. You do not want to discuss, you want to condemn someone you don't like. You can sound bite the word all you want to and it's still a dead letter, not being ministered in the spirit of the word. I'm reminded Noah who got drunk and passed out in his tent. One son came in and found him and went and told people he was passed out naked in his tent. Two other sons came in with a blanket, backed in and covered him to keep from exposing his nakedness. The one son was cursed and the two that covered him was blessed. See any resemblance?
I don't care that you don't like Osteen, what bothers me is your condemnation by comparing him to just another preacher. Dave Wilkerson is not perfect, has said many things I know he wishes he hadn't. But I'm sure when conviction came he repented. He is human. A work in progress like all of us.
Why are you so bent to condemn anyone who doesn't agree with you. There is a problem when you get so obsessed about something that you have to let it dominate you. I hear people all the time bashing Jim Swaggart, Benny Hinn and others. If I was the devil they would have been one of my biggest targets as they have lead many to Christ. How would you like to be a target like that. Jim Swaggart got so consumed about morality that it was always on his mind. reading about perversion, talking about it all the time. He opened up his mind to that garbage and it took root and grew and eventually produced a harvest The church should have been doing what we were told to do, Pray for him Jesus said he would build his church and the gaits of hell won't prevail against it.
Hank
I don't care that you don't like Osteen, what bothers me is your condemnation by comparing him to just another preacher. Dave Wilkerson is not perfect, has said many things I know he wishes he hadn't. But I'm sure when conviction came he repented. He is human. A work in progress like all of us.
Why are you so bent to condemn anyone who doesn't agree with you. There is a problem when you get so obsessed about something that you have to let it dominate you. I hear people all the time bashing Jim Swaggart, Benny Hinn and others. If I was the devil they would have been one of my biggest targets as they have lead many to Christ. How would you like to be a target like that. Jim Swaggart got so consumed about morality that it was always on his mind. reading about perversion, talking about it all the time. He opened up his mind to that garbage and it took root and grew and eventually produced a harvest The church should have been doing what we were told to do, Pray for him Jesus said he would build his church and the gaits of hell won't prevail against it.
Hank
by Red Sable on 13 March 2013 - 06:03
Wow Shtal, that was good. I wonder how many times that is preached in Church? I know how many times I've heard it, NEVER.
by gouda on 13 March 2013 - 10:03
Hi Hank
God called me to be a watchman,its not a very satisfying job,makes a lot of enemies,
but never the less it is what he called me to do.
Your friend in Christ
gouda
God called me to be a watchman,its not a very satisfying job,makes a lot of enemies,
but never the less it is what he called me to do.
Your friend in Christ
gouda
by gouda on 13 March 2013 - 10:03
Hank
I only condemn those who who preach a false doctrine.,thats why I only go by the word of God the scriptures.
have a nice day
gouda
I only condemn those who who preach a false doctrine.,thats why I only go by the word of God the scriptures.
have a nice day
gouda
by gouda on 13 March 2013 - 10:03
Hank
Can you imagine Jesus saying, I knew you not.
Millions will hear that,because of teachers like Joel.
Have you ever thought of it that way?
Have a wonderful day.
gouda
Can you imagine Jesus saying, I knew you not.
Millions will hear that,because of teachers like Joel.
Have you ever thought of it that way?
Have a wonderful day.
gouda
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