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by Preston on 16 September 2011 - 05:09

What if I just happen to know what I am presenting here.  Did that possibility ever occur to you?

When I was entering first grade, it was the summer of polio.  Every child on my block was coming down with it, we moved out and boarded up our windows.   Turns out the virus was in the water.  Teh fuirst vaccine that came out caused some kids to actuaklly get polio and was quickly remobved off of the market.  The second vaccine was safer and did stop polio, but this vaccine contained toxic amounts of ethyl mercury as a preservative and also contained simian SV 40.  I knew doctors that worked in research and told me this was part of the original cell cultures which has continued even to this day.  This is now well documented if you do some basic research.  Check out sabin versus salk vaccine and find out about the third one that killed the grandchildren of the doctor that was part owner of the manufacturer and head of the American Cancer Institute (Dr. Orschler of Tulane).  He told his colleague the vaccine was comletely safe and immunized his grandson in front of many physicians.  His grandson died the next day.  But don't take my word for it, check out the evidence you can research yourself.

And by the way SM, I DO NOT hope your vagina rots off.  I would rather have you learn the truth about what the benefits and real risks/problems of vaccines really are.  PS, there is no need at all for ethyl mercury or squalene in them or aluminum either and now some manufacturers are starting to takles mercury out in more expensive individual doses (the labels are not always accurate so one has to know the exact source and batch).

http://www.naturalnews.com/033584_Dr_Maurice_Hilleman_SV40.html
 

http://www.naturalnews.com/033585_Gardasil_contamination.html

http://www.naturalnews.com/033583_financial_ties_medical_societies.html 
 


by SitasMom on 16 September 2011 - 16:09

i know that "risks" and IMO they far outweigh the benefits.

 


Red Sable

by Red Sable on 16 September 2011 - 17:09

Rick Perry sounds darn scary to me.  It would be like jumping from the frying pan into the fire.

Some of us girls would just prefer to keep our legs together as to take another friggin' vaccine. 

And voting for a 3rd party would work if everyone didn't feel the same way as you SM, and just did it.

GSDguy08

by GSDguy08 on 16 September 2011 - 21:09

Not trying to bring biblical debates into this......but if people "did" do things the way the New Testament in the bible says to do them regarding sex outside of marriage.....Well, there really wouldn't be that much of a problem regarding HPV.  Wasn't there someone on the news recently complaining about the vaccine, because of what it did to their daughter? I can't remember what happened to the girl, but it was by no means good at all.  

As for the whole illegal border crossing.  It is very sad, when a friend of my family was hit and killed by a drunk.......illegal immigrant one day.....This happened less than two years ago......and this man already walks free again in this country. 

by SitasMom on 17 September 2011 - 02:09


http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/a-dose-of-reality-for-the-hpv-debate/2011/09/15/gIQAd2EfVK_print.html

A dose of reality for the HPV debate

By Michael Gerson, Published: September 15

If Republican presidential candidates want to debate sexual health and hygiene, it would be nice if they displayed more collective knowledge and judgment than your average eighth-grade family-life class. During the Tampa debate, a viewer longed for a blunt, part-time football coach — or whomever they draft into teaching health classes nowadays — to mount the stage and present the facts of life.

The human papillomavirus (HPV) is a nasty, sexually transmitted disease contracted by about three-quarters of Americans at some point. You can have it, and spread it, without knowing it. In some women, the virus causes abnormal cells in the lining of the cervix that can develop into cancerous lesions. Virtually all cervical cancer is caused by HPV. There is, however, a vaccine that is highly effective against the most dangerous HPV strains. The main side effect, as you’d expect in a procedure involving a needle, is fainting. The Cen­ters for Disease Control and Prevention recommends that all girls should get it anyway.

At least this approach would have added to the public stock of health information. Instead, Michele Bachmann talked of “innocent little 12-year-old girls” who were “forced to have a government injection” by Rick Perry’s 2007 mandate of HPV vaccinations in Texas. Bachmann later added, on the medical authority of a weeping mother’s anecdote, that the HPV vaccine, or maybe it was some other vaccine, might cause “mental retardation.” Bachmann herself seems prone to a serious condition: the compulsive desire to confirm every evangelical stereotype of censorious ignorance.

The objections to routine HPV vaccination cluster in a few areas. First, it is alleged that removing medical penalties for sexual contact — in this case, HPV and cervical cancer — will encourage sex. A protective shot given to a girl on the verge of sexual maturity, in this view, may be taken as permission for experimentation.

This type of argument is inherently difficult to prove or disprove. But it is unlikely that a 16-year-old making sexual choices is focused on her chances of getting a cancer that might develop 20 years in the future — a hypothetical event beyond the time horizon of the adolescent mind.


by SitasMom on 17 September 2011 - 02:09

The more disturbing moral failure concerns any parent who would entertain this argument. Try to imagine a parent-daughter conversation about sexual restraint and maturity that includes the words: “Honey, I’m going to deny you a vaccine that prevents a horrible, bleeding cancer, just as a little reminder of the religious values I’ve been trying to teach you.” This would be morally monstrous. Such ethical electroshock therapy has nothing to do with cultivation of character in children. It certainly has nothing to do with Christianity, which teaches that moral rules are created for the benefit of the individual, not to punish them with preventable death.

This approach to moral education may appeal to a certain kind of conservative politician. How could it possibly appeal to a parent, conservative or otherwise?

A second objection to routine HPV vaccination concerns parental rights. Bachmann confused this issue by introducing anti-vaccine paranoia — one of the most direct and practical ways that a public official can undermine the health of his or her fellow citizens. A more sophisticated version of this argument claims that a vaccine against measles or mumps is fundamentally different from a vaccine against a sexually transmitted disease such as HPV. Because of the ethical context, parents should have more of a say.

But the public health case for vaccination is similar for diseases spread by coughing and those spread by sexual contact. Vaccines decrease the incidence of a disease in a whole society, which has good health outcomes for everyone, not only the protected individual. Consider a woman who is resolutely abstinent until her marriage at 24. Her husband — who got HPV from a girlfriend who was not vaccinated — unknowingly gives it to his wife on their wedding night, increasing her risk for cervical cancer. She would suffer because others are not vaccinated. The decision to vaccinate — for HPV or any infectious disease — is not just a personal, family choice. It is also a matter of public health. And it is not unreasonable for public authorities to strongly encourage responsible parental choices.

It is possible that Rick Perry encouraged HPV vaccinations in the wrong way or for the wrong reasons. But it is Bachmann, not Perry, who would put girls and women at greater health risk based on moral confusion and public health illiteracy.

michaelgerson@washpost.com


by SitasMom on 17 September 2011 - 02:09

In 2007 (the most recent year numbers are available)—
  • 12,280 women in the United States were diagnosed with cervical cancer.*2
  • 4,021 women in the United States died from cervical cancer.*2
Penile cancer rates in 2007 0.69 per 100,000
The 10 most commonly diagnosed cancers among men in the United States in 2007* included cancers of the prostate, lung, colon and rectum, and bladder; melanomas of the skin; non-Hodgkin lymphoma; kidney cancer, mouth and throat cancer   (16.1% of the total cancer of which half are related to hpv) , leukemias, and pancreatic cancer. Overall, 758,587 men were told they had cancer and 292,853 men died from cancer in the U.S. in 2007.

so 8 % of cancer in American men is caused by HPV........OH MY!

GSDguy08

by GSDguy08 on 17 September 2011 - 02:09

sitasmom, "if the man had not had sex before marriage with his previous girlfriend......he wouldn't be able to give it to his wife that night"......Just saying......I'm not against the vaccine, regardless of what I say regarding religion, etc.  I'm just saying, I know many, many Christians who did not do that until marriage as a choice of their own.  However, I personally am not against the vaccine because I know many people will choose not to wait until marriage.

BabyEagle4U

by BabyEagle4U on 17 September 2011 - 19:09

The vaccine should be an individual choice for all, not a federal, state and local mandate with an "opt-out" option. That's back asswards. If individuals want the vaccine for their children, the vaccine should be available to them. It's an individual personal choice with responsibility.

That's like the state, federal and local government mandating everyone eat a peanut butter sandwich for lunch and if you want a philly cheese steak instead you can by law "opt-out".

Refer to the saying "if your not a criminal yet, they make a law so you are" 

What's next .. local, state and federal mandated 1% milk with an "opt-out" if you want 2%, skim, whole milk ? (lol) 

But ya, I seen the interview with the child that was paralysed after the vaccine, I couldn't imagine what her mother is going threw and will go threw for the rest of her life, that young girl is an innocent victim and paralysed for life because of her mother obeyed a mandated vaccine for her to go to school. Not right, if you care to know what I think. That child will never even get to go to school again.

This reading is interesting and dated 2007 the same year Perry signed the executive order (crazy): http://vaccineawakening.blogspot.com/2007/05/mercks-hpv-vaccine-paralysis-and-deaths.html


Red Sable

by Red Sable on 17 September 2011 - 19:09

Thank you BE, my thoughts exactly.  It should be a CHOICE!!

If they really care about cancer, than mandate laws that forbid the bleaching of paper,  burning plastics, using aspartame in foods and drinks, importing fruit with poisonous sprays such as arsenic. 





 


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