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by Shtal on 26 March 2013 - 22:03
Ruger1 wrote to GSDguy08: Do you care about their academic accomplishments?
My reply to Ruger1: Do you believe evolutionist Professor's w/ PhD's who are teaching/saying we evolved "from ancestors" or in other words we evolved from some sort of creatures and their is no GOD?...They must be correct since they have academic accomplishments in science!
Galatians Chapter 1:8
But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.
Shtal.
My reply to Ruger1: Do you believe evolutionist Professor's w/ PhD's who are teaching/saying we evolved "from ancestors" or in other words we evolved from some sort of creatures and their is no GOD?...They must be correct since they have academic accomplishments in science!
Galatians Chapter 1:8
But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.
Shtal.
by Ruger1 on 26 March 2013 - 23:03
Shtal,
As is your problem with Bible interpretation which is taking things out of context, you did the same this with my comment to
GSDguy,,In my quote you posted above I was asking GSDguy if he cares about the accomplishments of the Dr's he chooses for his family..
However, I certainly believe that Science does have value..I may not agree with all aspects of Science, especially when science makes claims contrary to what is taught in scripture, but yes, I think the Sciences have value..I actually agree with most of what I have studied in the Sciences,,
Stop using Scripture for your own gain,,.You are the one preaching a different Gospel from that of Christ and the disciples..Make no mistake about that,,
Shtal, You have been given a gracious opportunity by God in participating in this thread..The things which have been posted here are things you should seriously consider with prayer and study.,
As is your problem with Bible interpretation which is taking things out of context, you did the same this with my comment to
GSDguy,,In my quote you posted above I was asking GSDguy if he cares about the accomplishments of the Dr's he chooses for his family..
However, I certainly believe that Science does have value..I may not agree with all aspects of Science, especially when science makes claims contrary to what is taught in scripture, but yes, I think the Sciences have value..I actually agree with most of what I have studied in the Sciences,,
Stop using Scripture for your own gain,,.You are the one preaching a different Gospel from that of Christ and the disciples..Make no mistake about that,,
Shtal, You have been given a gracious opportunity by God in participating in this thread..The things which have been posted here are things you should seriously consider with prayer and study.,
by ggturner on 26 March 2013 - 23:03
As a biology teacher, I value science except when it contradicts the word of God. Therefore, I do not believe in most topics in evolutionary theory. Natural selection, biodiversity, genetic mutations, adaptations, and evolution of microbes are all topics I agree with. However, after teaching 5 chapters of evolution in my AP Biology class, I think it takes "more faith" to believe in abiogenesis than an intelligent creator. Even evolutionary scientists cannot agree on evolutionary theories about the primordial atmosphere and the ancestral lines of prokaryotes. Spontaneous generation was disproved by Pasteur, yet evolutionists believe living organisms somehow evolved from nonliving matter. Miller and Urey made amino acids in the lab in the 1950's. Big deal. No scientist has proven abiogenesis.
by Felloffher on 26 March 2013 - 23:03
Do you believe evolutionist Professor's w/ PhD's who are teaching/saying we evolved "from ancestors" or in other words we evolved from some sort of creatures and their is no GOD?...They must be correct since they have academic accomplishments in science!
Those pesky professor's with their PhD's, how dare they use science and physical evidence.
Those pesky professor's with their PhD's, how dare they use science and physical evidence.
by Felloffher on 27 March 2013 - 00:03
As a biology teacher, I value science except when it contradicts the word of God. Therefore, I do not believe in most topics in evolutionary theory. Natural selection, biodiversity, genetic mutations, adaptations, and evolution of microbes are all topics I agree with. However, after teaching 5 chapters of evolution in my AP Biology class, I think it takes "more faith" to believe in abiogenesis than an intelligent creator. Even evolutionary scientists cannot agree on evolutionary theories about the primordial atmosphere and the ancestral lines of prokaryotes. Spontaneous generation was disproved by Pasteur, yet evolutionists believe living organisms somehow evolved from nonliving matter. Miller and Urey made amino acids in the lab in the 1950's. Big deal. No scientist has proven abiogenesis.
ggturner,
Abiogenesis is a hypothesis that attempts to explain how life came to be. Evolutionary theory stands on it's own merit and in no way does it rely on abiogenesis. Your entitled to your beliefs, but you should be honest when presenting facts.
ggturner,
Abiogenesis is a hypothesis that attempts to explain how life came to be. Evolutionary theory stands on it's own merit and in no way does it rely on abiogenesis. Your entitled to your beliefs, but you should be honest when presenting facts.
by Shtal on 27 March 2013 - 00:03
Ruger1 wrote: As is your problem with Bible interpretation which is taking things out of context, you did the same this with my comment to
GSDguy,,In my quote you posted above I was asking GSDguy if he cares about the accomplishments of the Dr's he chooses for his family..
That is exacly what GSDguy08 already told you...That you take things out of context that is written in Bible and applying them with your own interpretation vs. what the Bible says...
My intent about GSDguy08 quote that I cut it out...sorry, I had only one purpose...Whether you have PhD or master degree, you have to be open minded and NOT applying your own ideas. GSDguy08 already told you...you are mistaken.
Shtal.
GSDguy,,In my quote you posted above I was asking GSDguy if he cares about the accomplishments of the Dr's he chooses for his family..
That is exacly what GSDguy08 already told you...That you take things out of context that is written in Bible and applying them with your own interpretation vs. what the Bible says...
My intent about GSDguy08 quote that I cut it out...sorry, I had only one purpose...Whether you have PhD or master degree, you have to be open minded and NOT applying your own ideas. GSDguy08 already told you...you are mistaken.
Shtal.
by Ruger1 on 27 March 2013 - 00:03
Shtal,,What are you talking about??..You and I always have such a difficult time communicating..lol..
What does what GSDguy said about my interpretation of scripture have to do with the quote you posted about about Dr.'s credentials..lol..Please re-read my posts.,,
What does what GSDguy said about my interpretation of scripture have to do with the quote you posted about about Dr.'s credentials..lol..Please re-read my posts.,,
by Shtal on 27 March 2013 - 01:03
You said: Well there you have it,,You, as well as Shtal and Gouda like to take instruction from those unlearned in Biblical Theology. I could get my uncle so and so to make a YouTube video and claim to be a teacher of Bible truths too for all that matters..
You said: Wonder if you feel the same about those who perform surgery on your family..Do you care about their academic accomplishments??,,Or do you hold to the same idea that as long as "they believe" they are practicing according to what "they " think is medical truth it makes it ok..
Perhaps I will rephrase for better sake of communication, you are implying that people who have higher education in theology must be correct with interpertation based what you believe?...Also you are implying that why or on what bases do you trust or believe your source that is actually is medical truth and did you verify their academic accomplishments before you came to your own conclusion.
Shtal.
You said: Wonder if you feel the same about those who perform surgery on your family..Do you care about their academic accomplishments??,,Or do you hold to the same idea that as long as "they believe" they are practicing according to what "they " think is medical truth it makes it ok..
Perhaps I will rephrase for better sake of communication, you are implying that people who have higher education in theology must be correct with interpertation based what you believe?...Also you are implying that why or on what bases do you trust or believe your source that is actually is medical truth and did you verify their academic accomplishments before you came to your own conclusion.
Shtal.
by Ruger1 on 27 March 2013 - 01:03
I think that ggturner's post answered this question well..Go back a few posts and find her post and re-read it,,
I am going to make this easy; Here is an example..
We have two believers and they want to grow in faith and practice..,,
One goes to seminary for 10 years and gets a Doctorate in Theology from the most prestigious school there is and adds 5 letters behind their name..,,
The other reads their Bible in the closet and receives no formal instruction..
All other things being created equal who do you think has a better understanding of the Bible..
I am going to make this easy; Here is an example..
We have two believers and they want to grow in faith and practice..,,
One goes to seminary for 10 years and gets a Doctorate in Theology from the most prestigious school there is and adds 5 letters behind their name..,,
The other reads their Bible in the closet and receives no formal instruction..
All other things being created equal who do you think has a better understanding of the Bible..
by Shtal on 27 March 2013 - 02:03
Maybe I will try with an different approach...I have and I did study science - and I have no PhD degree but only regular science education and after studying I came to conclusion that science points to intellegent designer... And so in contrary to this we have professor who earned PhD degree and came to conclusion, we simply evolved and there is no GOD, until recently he changed his position of thinking, you can check my thread: http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/forum.read?mnr=709025-what-made-a-biology-professor-evolve-into-a-creationist-published-on-mar-15-2013
So higher education people sometimes make mistakes.
Shtal.
So higher education people sometimes make mistakes.
Shtal.
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