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by Ibrahim on 01 August 2013 - 23:08

For example in Jordan we have Muslims and Christians, among Christians there are several churches, then we have original Jordanians and those of Palestinian origin, Syrian origin, Chechni (Russian) origin, bedwins etc etc, if we think as Jordanians we always remain in good shape, once we think based on religion or our previous nationality etc be sure we will loose peace and harmony.

by Ibrahim on 01 August 2013 - 23:08

That is why I always say don't talk religion, talk humanity, don't talk race or color, talk humanity, don't talk man and woman, talk humanity then all the world will be in peace and harmony.

Carlin

by Carlin on 01 August 2013 - 23:08

Clearly the Shia are in control on Iran.  They seem, at least from the outside, to remain a theocracy.  If they are not, then why all the religious rhetoric?  Why are the other Arab states not putting pressure on them stop?  As you say, if Iran worried about nation, things may be a lot different. 

by Ibrahim on 01 August 2013 - 23:08

Arabs and Iranians are two different nations, we are Arabs and they are Iranians. We share same religion but two different schools (or two different churches).
Iran should not be a religion based state. In fact Iranian leaders do not think and act based on religion, but simple people do. When Khumaini wanted to take power from the Shah he thought of a religion revolution to gather people around him to repel the Shah, he succeeded and made a religion based state and succeeded in keeping ordinary people around him. But in Iran's relations with other countries religion is not a factor, interests are.

Two Moons

by Two Moons on 01 August 2013 - 23:08

Ibrahim,
I salute you....
Well done.

by Ibrahim on 01 August 2013 - 23:08

Not all Iranians are pro a religion state, my personal estimation if there was true freedom and democracy Iranians will choose the opposition and thus there will be no more a religion state.
My own take is democracy is the biggest lie in history, there is no such true democracy anywhere in the world, not even in America. True there is freedom of speech but not democracy, when there are only two parties which rule the nation, that is an illusion.

Two Moons

by Two Moons on 01 August 2013 - 23:08

Agreed.

by Ibrahim on 01 August 2013 - 23:08

If an ordinary person, who does not have tons of money and is not a member of a political party has no chance to run for presidency and win then where is the democracy, when it is already known president is either from Democratic party or Republic party, where is the democracy?

I won't mention our own countries, most of them here inherit leadership from their fathers or brothers, and fool us with electing stupid and corrupt senators in the parliament, some of them do not read and write.

Carlin

by Carlin on 01 August 2013 - 23:08

Thank you for taking the time to share your perspective.  Here, there is so much propaganda involved, the last thing we get is what the opinion of the average "joe" living over there.  "Democracy" doesn't always mean freedom, no.  China and N.Korea are "Democracies", for instance.  In the US, we have two parties, but power is the hands of the well funded, and well connected.  I hope the people over there realize that many people here disagree with the practices of the US government overseas.

by Ibrahim on 01 August 2013 - 23:08

Every where the ruling is confined in an elite (selective number of people) and deprived from others. Just have a look at Saudi King, he hardly can read written words on a paper, what made him eligible for being the king?
Remember George Bush, he was less than average American in regards to intelligence, what made him become the PRESIDENT of the most powerful and biggest economy?





 


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