Sportism - Page 14

Hi GSDFan,
Re how they were started - depends on the dog, however the only pre requisites I personally have are:
1, Let the pup be a pup.
2, Get there focus - toy.
3, Expose Constantly to many environments/distractions from a young age. (not meaning bite work, the toy is used as a distraction if needed, as / when the environments get for instance - more claustrophobic/tighter/extreme)

Regards
Gee

Per hans post at bottom of page 12 ---I believe a dog doesn't 'choose flight'. Rather I believe it is instinct reaction to what a dog perceives as overwhelming and the dog is unable to cope any way except to put distance between the 'danger' and himself.

Gee i meant how were they started in protection? Does he have a "sport foundation?"

Yes gsdfanes I can show you videos . These are raw unedited videos of training in progress . These are not demo videos these are learninr / teaching vieos which we use to see what the dogs and handler and trainer ahd decoy have done wrong and right. So not all is perfect. The intention here is  to show you the dog's confidence. No ability to jump over obstacles :)  These dogs trained by me to be civil as a sole trainer. Before this training all dogs were   civil proofed on suit thus training on suit is permitted and conducted and that is what you see here. 

 K9 Jet from green parallel training 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f73GuEbZEmw

K9 Odin from pup

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2At-hodvxsg

 K9 Shadow started older as totally green no training to speak of. ( Gigante's dog)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DK9kQSNhZ4U

 Prager Hans 

 

GSDFAN.
Every dog is different, I genuinely mean that.

Also I prefer the term manwork as opposed to protection - apologies for being pedantic. (I do think it is a more accurate and truer description, certainly of what my objectives are, and by the way the term PPD - makes me toes curl lol)

For me the focus must always be on the man, of course there are various ways of achieving that.

I genuinely respect - ALL the different ways a cat can be skinned - Including the way Hans gets results.

Regards
Gee

Hans - I enjoyed those vids.
It's always a bonus for me, when distraction/obstacle are in situ.
The first vid of the falling pallets - I like.
Though there is a big visual trigger - bite suit, the distractions in my opinion enhance the training scenario. (and are by no means - shrugged of by all dogs)

Thanks for sharing.
Regards
Gee

@Gigante,
Good to see your dog - nice work.

Regards
Gee

here is Chi Chi I may have shown this video elsewhere. She by no means is finished but she is proofed to be civil on suit in about 7-8(!!!) mo. of age. She has a real bite under her belt too. Chi Chi muzzle 1st time ever about 1 year of age :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2HbGdl7oJ9A

Gee: Ok lol, I realize you don't want to offend anyone so will not answer. I just want to know what kind of grip work your dog has had. You can PM me if you like.


Hans thank you for sharing your videos.

@ GSDFan.
It's not a case of not wanting to offend any one at all, there is no single blue print.

Re grip work - the quality will ALWAYS depend on the pressure you put on the dog.

You supply LE therefore you will know - the the more extreme the stress, the less perfect the grip. There are various reasons for this, sometimes it is simply ergonomic. What I mean by that is - it is one thing placing an arm at the correct angle into a dogs mouth on the training field, with a huge visual que - suit or sleeve.

It is quite a different thing - when the dog is being attacked and there is no obvious visual que for the dog to target, by that I mean - if he bites the buttocks/abdomen or leg - those areas - are not condusive to the bite you will see from the same dog biting an arm sleeve on the training field. 

Now for me, the most important thing is - the dog ALWAYS engages.

Regards
Gee