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by vk4gsd on 31 July 2013 - 23:07

enough were sent, look around you, we need more prophets ASAP. they need to update to mutli-media communications tho, kids don't read much these days.

by Ibrahim on 31 July 2013 - 23:07

I know what you are getting at,first of all I am not a student of religion and I am not the right person to explain or teach it. However God conveyed his message to people through prophets, some of those prophets were Mousa, Issa & Mohd. God told the people what to do and what not to do, He asked them to worship him and do good and explained there will be heaven and there will be hell. He gave them the will to make a choice, that is why there is heaven and there is hell.
Just bear in mind I might be one of the least eligible to talk religion and I will not take the course of trying to convince anyone to believe in God or become a Catholic, it is your own choice and decision Teeth Smile

by vk4gsd on 31 July 2013 - 23:07

it not a choice - you just said all is god's will,  you can't have it both ways.

by Ibrahim on 01 August 2013 - 00:08

I will try to explain this part, then I will go to sleep. All goes by the will of God. God knows what each one of us will be and do. He has the knowledge of past and future but he gave the will of choosing for each of us and personal choices are upto us.

You have infront of you two glasses, one is apple and another is orange, you have the choice to choose which to drink, that is your choice, still it is known before hand to God which one you shall choose, it is both ways, you can't say it wasn't your choice. That is how it was explained to us by religion teacher. I know it isn't very convincing for someone who isn't a believer.

God says He leads whom he wishes to the right path. Some say then it is God who made me do all I did, it isn't my mistake Roll eyes

by vk4gsd on 01 August 2013 - 00:08

so god already knows who is going to heaven and who is going to hell before they have even been born but gives us the illusion of choice, seems like he/she tortured small animals for fun as a child - sick, the more you explain it the sicker it gets.

by Ibrahim on 01 August 2013 - 11:08

I don't think it is wise to insult God, and yes he knows and gave us the CHOICE to choose, you are choosing your path in life.

Ibrahim

by beetree on 01 August 2013 - 11:08

The choice is no illusion. That is your error, not God's.

Red Sable

by Red Sable on 01 August 2013 - 12:08

Interesting Ibrahim, thank you for explaining.
In Christianity, the next ruler of the world, will be an anti christ.  He will portray himself as God, set himself up in the third temple (that will be built in Jerusalem under his authority) make a 7 year covenant with Israel ( which the U.S. is working on now as I type) but then break it half way through.  He will deceive many, possibly even the Believers.  During his reign, the whole world will be forced to take a mark in which everyone will need to buy sell and basically exist, and there will be MUCH destruction.  A WWIII.  Jesus, will then return before all FLESH is destroyed.
Some Christians even believe Jesus will come in the clouds and gather His believers before the starting of that 7 year tribulation.  That is what I hope for :).

Too make it even more bizarre, the Bible says it will be as in the days of Noah.  In the days of Noah, fallen angels were mating with humans and creating hybrids (nephillims)that were very much against God's will.  So, these so called Aliens that have been seen everywhere lately, are really fallen angels.  And if you research it, many are existing now, today.    Some believe  that the wonders of this new Anti Christ (who literally comes out of the abyss) will have to do with aliens, and our Christian rapture will be according to him, done by aliens.

I'm not saying all this is true, however, it is good to know the theories of those who study diligently, so when or IF this happens we will not be fooled.

God Bless you Ibrahim. :)

by Ibrahim on 01 August 2013 - 12:08

Thanks beetree and red sable, we also believe in the same, this destructor is called Al Dajjal, he will have one good eye only and he will claim he is prophet Issa And some will be fooled.
Ibrahim
 

Two Moons

by Two Moons on 01 August 2013 - 15:08

Now, are these breeding angels in the form of men or women?
Might be good to know........:)

At least according to one book jesus didn't do so well the first time, what makes you think an anti-christ will do any better?
Yeah there are fools who will believe anything and would be easy targets, the Nine.

Yes a great conflict is coming, unless we burn it all down before it happens.
Nothing like a good fire to cleanse the earth and bring forth new life.

Ibrahim,
what would happen to someone like me in your country if I stood in public insulting Islam?

I wouldn't make it out alive would I.


 





 


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