The Foundational Falsehoods of Creationism - Page 14

Hundmutter,
About perfection regarded as being subjective. I am not sure you got that right. It could be that some people have subjective opinions on the ideal of perfection, but when the form and the function unite in such a way as there is no need for a change, I believe that type of perfection is identifiable and even measurable, in many instances.

So, if you allow me that, then do you think humans will eventually be able to pinpoint on a timeline, when a change from inert elements happened that resulted in a reproducing life form?

Yes, if biologist's can duplicate the events, otherwise it will remain a hypothesis. Synthetic life is being produced and natural reproduction is being observed in controlled environments, so eventually there will be breakthroughs giving us more answers.

Synthetic life is being produced and natural reproduction is being observed in controlled environments, so eventually there will be breakthroughs giving us more answers.
 

It is true what you wrote there, except I think it needs a tweaking. We are learning how to imitate life that already exists, among other things. Cloning is copying, we still need the original(s) to be working before anything will ever be produced that can be called re-production. Lol, I did notice how careful and correct you used those terms. You and even I, might think these accomplishments will lead to how to actually duplicate the creation of say, the very first life? Whatever it is that turns out to be the kick that made things begin to tick. You think it is possible? And here is the big clincher for me, do we want to? 

Bee,
DNA is being added to cells and they are naturally reproducing, this is not cloning. I do think biologist's will eventually duplicate our creation, the question is will it happen in our lifetime. I will ask you, why wouldn't we want to recreate the process that started life?

 

But that is recombining... not that I want to split hairs about the detail stuff.... that really isn't where I want to dwell with this stuff. That is best left to other's. I'm the idea gal. LOL

Now you answered my question with a question, lol! 

I will ask you, why wouldn't we want to recreate the process that started life?

EXCELLENT!  I can think of no reason why we wouldn't want to!  As a matter of fact, this could be the function that strives our brain to differentiation. Hmmmm.... do you follow that?

EXCELLENT!  I can think of no reason why we wouldn't want to!  As a matter of fact, this could be the function that strives our brain to differentiation. Hmmmm.... do you follow that?

No, I'm not following you here. Could you be a little more specific?

Well, at least answer your own question to me, yourself, first?  Do you agree that generally a human's brain, on the whole is "hard wired" to seek out such .... "knowledge"?  It is our nature? We always want to know "why and how?"  It is not something seen in other brains of species?  It is unique to humans?  

I can't see any reason not to either, the more answers we have, the closer we will be to the solution. Yes, we are inquisitive by nature, but I disagree that we are the only species that displays this trait. A higher level of intelligence and understanding is our only advantage over other species.

So, what exactly would our brain be differentiating between if we created life?

beetree is good at derailing, and now she will deny that she is.  If she'd watch the video, she might be able to play the game that was called.  She starts her own threads within threads and when she comes to a corner, she goes for a cup of coffee and never comes back.   Or she threatens to challenge you on a specific subject, but never gets around to it.  But any mystic bullshit that she applies measurement to, she deems to be too perfect to not be created, and that suddenly proves a creator!  POOF, magic!  ROFLMAO.

Then you ramble on about honest discussions?  Really?  You're playing all-in with a pair of deuces and you're not a good bluffer.
 

GSDtravels:
When you give you will get. You left the building, not I! You need to follow the progression or you get nothing. You won't contribute, so you get.... let's see, nothing!

Oh, and... I'm not bluffing! LOL


By all means if you have a point to make and want to support it with your explanation of what the video said as proof, that would be a jolly good way of joining in this discussion, and take back your own thread...

To date, you are kind of left with name calling and sorry idea's of what you think are my motives.