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by ddr gsd on 30 December 2013 - 19:12
dutchshepherdforum - KNPV
by OGBS on 30 December 2013 - 22:12
Wow Bebo, you've actually come up with a few posts that aren't a copy and paste of other's thoughts and information. Quite impressive!
Yet still, I haven't seen anywhere that you've been able to disprove anything that I have posted. Have you been able to find a pedigree of a KNPV GSD that proves what I say is wrong? So far, not. Instead you resort to statements like, "Pedestrian truisms." Well, I'll put my education up against yours any day of the week. When people resort to name calling and/or insults in a debate it's because they are feeling beaten. Oh, I almost forgot. Nothing was lost on me when you wrote the part about the tough dogs (it was easy to see you were going for KNPV type dogs here) and the "three outs and beyond" comments. Nice try on your part of trying to backtrack on that one, though.
As for dissing European lines, or in this case what is meant by that is Sch/IPO dogs, they have been dismissed as prey monkeys, and not suitable for KNPV, police and military work in this thread. What I don't get from all you police, military, and KNPV experts is this. If prey monkey type dogs aren't good for police, military, and KNPV, why is it that the Malinois is the "go to" dog in all of these disciplines? Doesn't the Malinois, as a breed, win the prey monkey of the year award, year after year?
Yet still, I haven't seen anywhere that you've been able to disprove anything that I have posted. Have you been able to find a pedigree of a KNPV GSD that proves what I say is wrong? So far, not. Instead you resort to statements like, "Pedestrian truisms." Well, I'll put my education up against yours any day of the week. When people resort to name calling and/or insults in a debate it's because they are feeling beaten. Oh, I almost forgot. Nothing was lost on me when you wrote the part about the tough dogs (it was easy to see you were going for KNPV type dogs here) and the "three outs and beyond" comments. Nice try on your part of trying to backtrack on that one, though.
As for dissing European lines, or in this case what is meant by that is Sch/IPO dogs, they have been dismissed as prey monkeys, and not suitable for KNPV, police and military work in this thread. What I don't get from all you police, military, and KNPV experts is this. If prey monkey type dogs aren't good for police, military, and KNPV, why is it that the Malinois is the "go to" dog in all of these disciplines? Doesn't the Malinois, as a breed, win the prey monkey of the year award, year after year?
by Gustav on 30 December 2013 - 23:12
Because Mals and GS are not the same breed, but if you feel people are dissing European lines.....no one can change your mind. Whatever people want to think is fine with me. A person can only speak to what their experiences are....I have acquired a few LE dogs over the years, helped far more people acquire one. I'm not going to say I know as much as others about bloodlines or LE/military dogs, or sport dogs, I just know I have been extremely lucky going to some dogs/lines and staying away from others.
by bebo on 31 December 2013 - 00:12
@ogbs: there wasn't anything to disprove since both your assertion and supporting arguments were rhetorical tautologies, to which i objected. blame it on my educational deficiencies to act out on kant's sapere aude. mea culpa and peace out.
by OGBS on 31 December 2013 - 00:12
Hahaha! Great post, but, you are incorrectly crediting Kant with sapere aud, when it should be Horatius.
Kant borrowed it from him.
Have a great night!
Kant borrowed it from him.
Have a great night!
by bebo on 31 December 2013 - 01:12
horatius was an officer in the roman army; horace was a roman poet. it is the latter who's been credited for the original use of sapere aude. i also didn't credit kant for the creation of a latin phrase, duh, but professed to being an undereducated nitwit erroneously emboldened by kant's call to employ reason.
by OGBS on 31 December 2013 - 01:12
Seriously, do I need to explain this to you also?
by bebo on 31 December 2013 - 01:12
@Ibrahim: sorry. please check your pm.
by gsdstudent on 31 December 2013 - 08:12
wow! a nice, argument. even though it goes nowhere it beats Chevy Chase's '' Jane you ignorant slut'' by a mile. thank you for your civil-ness.[ people civil not dogs]
by ddr gsd on 31 December 2013 - 09:12
student - Argument? It sounds more like a debate. Have you once tersely
read the origins?
Gustav - I know you have much more information than your leading on. I
am sure you can reach commonality among this subjective topic in a neutral
zone.
chvdberkt (Gustav, et al) - when researching pedigrees and in a potential
mating, what given criteria would you utilize in a KNPV maternal line?
read the origins?
Gustav - I know you have much more information than your leading on. I
am sure you can reach commonality among this subjective topic in a neutral
zone.
chvdberkt (Gustav, et al) - when researching pedigrees and in a potential
mating, what given criteria would you utilize in a KNPV maternal line?
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