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by duke1965 on 19 January 2020 - 09:01

we have some clients that will not take a detection candidate with one additional vertebrea, im fine with that, my question however is if anybody ever heard about real problems in a dog on older age, that is 100 % due to 8th vertebrea, various vets have various opinions so far 


Sunsilver

by Sunsilver on 19 January 2020 - 09:01

Where in the spine is this extra vertebra? In the neck?

by duke1965 on 19 January 2020 - 10:01

rear end, and sometimes its a tailbone that didnot totally close, will see if I can upload some pics

Western Rider (admin)

by Western Rider on 19 January 2020 - 15:01

Duke if you have trouble posting the pics email them to me and I will see if I can post them

http://westernrider@yahoo.com


by hexe on 19 January 2020 - 20:01

duke, they probably aren't accepting those dogs because the 8th lumbar vertebra is considered to be part of the LTV [lumbosacral transitional vertebra] complex, and thus puts the dog at greater risk of developing cauda equina syndrome.

Alternative classification and screening protocol for transitional lumbosacral vertebra in German shepherd dogs


If given a choice between two candidates of equal ability, with one having a normal spinal structure and the other having LTV, the smart choice would be to take the one less likely to develop a crippling, painful condition that will require surgical intervention and a prolonged convalescence post-op before the dog could go back to duty...which would be the dog without the LTV complex.


Sunsilver

by Sunsilver on 20 January 2020 - 00:01

Hexe, well that certainly makes sense!

by duke1965 on 20 January 2020 - 01:01

2 things hexe,

you write, it puts the dog at greater risk,now my question is, are there known cases or factual information that they REALLY DO develope equina 

and secondly, you write, very important, IF GIVEN A CHOICE, thats a biggy LOL, most agencies cannot get the numbers they want and still reject top dogs with 8th vertebrea,

but anyway, my main question is if there is actual data of dogs with 8th vertebrea developing any problems during their working life ? 


by hexe on 20 January 2020 - 03:01

There has been a good amount of research on the issue, duke, yes.  


by duke1965 on 20 January 2020 - 04:01

where can I find the outcome please ?

by astrovan2487 on 20 January 2020 - 07:01

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/16429983/

8 times more likely to develop cauda equina than dogs without tv, also much more likely to develope it earlier. Seen alot of dogs retired at 5-6 with TV. The risk is way too high






 


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