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by EDD in Afgan on 30 March 2006 - 03:03

A person though misinformed asked a question based on what they heard. People gave very appropriate responses. Original person thanked them and was happy to be set straight. Now correct me if I am wrong but isn't that what this is for, to help people get information.

by Sumo on 30 March 2006 - 08:03

Hello Everyone, The original question about top revenue earner was posted by me. Let me tell everyone my background. I have just started showing my dogs just one year back. I meet lot of so called experts in the field at the shows. From one of the so called expert and one who is in this importing and selling GSD dogs business for more than 20 years told me that GSD selling is among the top 10 revenue earner for Germany. I was also surprised to hear that. (Germany as we all know is a developed country with all modern technology, car industry, software, tourism, etc,etc.)But as the person who was giving me this information is so experienced and well reputed I did not argue. But I was never sure about this therefore I posted this topic. So that I can get correct information. Which I got from Bob-O and Oskar1. I do not understand why mseebran & zida thought I want to make money out of it. I never asked I want to start as a breeder and how much money can I make. Both of them have taken the discussion on totaly different track. I would like to ask both of them what is wrong if somebody opts breeding as a business as long as he/she is doing it with honesty adn treating dogs well and trying to improve breed also. I am not referring to puppy factories. For that matter even if somebody is running a 'puppy factory' if he/she is taking good care of puppies and dogs what's wrong? Those who buy from such people are least bothered about the breed standard and they buy purely for the love of the dog and according to their budget. As we all know a good show quality puppy costs 800 to 1000 euro. Which everybody is not willing to pay. This I am telling from my exerience. When I visited Germany i told a freind of mine(who does not know anything about show GSD, in fact what I found most of Germans did not know about sieger show also. I was at Karlsruhe) I am planning to buy a GSD for 5000 euro he said you will get so many dogs to eat for a lifetime in that amount in Korea. I think this site is wonderful in the sense that one can get answers for the silliest questions also. And the topic should not be removed just because for somebody it is silly. For that matter no person is born as expert. He/she becomes expert by asking may be silly questions to his Guru or teacher and improving his/her knowledge. Thank you K9chess and The Gooner for supporting my silly question and for improving my knowledge. mseebran and zida you should be more openminded and considerate towards novice people like me because we are going to ask many more such silly questions.

by Zida on 30 March 2006 - 10:03

Hi Sumo, First of all I would like to offer you my sincere appologize for misunderstanding you or your question and calling it stupid, I just flipped when I saw your question about the revenue on GSD because there are a lot of people who are indeed doing it just for the money and they really do not care how or what they do and at the end of the day if you look at most of the animal shelters here in Europe so many of these poor dogs end up there or are being put down due to health issues.GSD are such noble animals and when you look at the tv and you see even one of them in the animal shelters your heart breaks. There is nothing wrong in breeding as a business provided it is done correctly and the welfare of the animals are primarily taken into consideration.I am also since not long a breeder (max 2 litter a year since I am doing it only as a hobby and being totally financed by my sweet husband) but in this short period of time I have also seen so many wrong doings by so called big breeders and who are only doing it for the money but intead of getting rich they are just filling the wholes they have made by selling problem dogs. Once again sorry for misunderstanding you.

by The Gooner on 30 March 2006 - 12:03

Sumo You said "For that matter even if somebody is running a 'puppy factory' if he/she is taking good care of puppies and dogs what's wrong? Those who buy from such people are least bothered about the breed standard and they buy purely for the love of the dog and according to their budget." I'll tell you what is wrong with "puppy factories" When the focus is on making money rather than the love of the dogs the welfare of the animal often goes out the window. Breeding will occur without the proper thought and care. What happens to these bitches when they get a little older and the litters smaller?? The are a bad business in my opinion. There are so many issues surrounding this type of activity that I'd be here all day. There are plenty of pet owners breeding their own pets (sometimes accidentaly) to supply the world with "nice puppies" without resorting to factory farming. Having said that I am often quite sad when I see some what might be called "top breeders" who treat bitches like breeding machines. Never really working the bitches and leaving them in kennels all day long. Chris

by The Gooner on 30 March 2006 - 12:03

Sumo You said "For that matter even if somebody is running a 'puppy factory' if he/she is taking good care of puppies and dogs what's wrong? Those who buy from such people are least bothered about the breed standard and they buy purely for the love of the dog and according to their budget." I'll tell you what is wrong with "puppy factories" When the focus is on making money rather than the love of the dogs the welfare of the animal often goes out the window. Breeding will occur without the proper thought and care. What happens to these bitches when they get a little older and the litters smaller?? The are a bad business in my opinion. There are so many issues surrounding this type of activity that I'd be here all day. There are plenty of pet owners breeding their own pets (sometimes accidentaly) to supply the world with "nice puppies" without resorting to factory farming. Having said that I am often quite sad when I see some what might be called "top breeders" who treat bitches like breeding machines. Never really working the bitches and leaving them in kennels all day long. Chris

by Sumo on 31 March 2006 - 10:03

Hello, Zida there is no need to apologise. I thought only that you muct have misunderstood my question. Zida and The Gooner I totally agree with that in most of puppy factories the dogs are not taken well care of. And most of the not needed puppies end in shelter or put down to sleep. But if you see that is not only with the dogs. Man here on earthis ready to exploit each and everyone present in nature. Take the example of fish trollers/catchers. When you are eating one fish in your dinner there are 10 other fishes just thrown away from the nets as they are not for human consumption. All the fish that is caught is not for human consumption and those fishes who are not worth fo comnsuming are thrown back to sea. And most of those fishes die a cruel death because they are already injured badly with the nets. Even in dairy industry once the cow is not worthy of giving milk it is mercilessly culled. Take the case of Amazon Jungles they are mercilessly brought down for so called modern society to establish and to make furniture. Anyway there is no end to man's greed. And these puppy factory is just one example. Thank You again.





 


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