stud dog with possible bad hips - Page 1

yesterday i went to check out a stud dog for my bitch i had heard grt things abt its bloodlines and have seen that he has ,,,jeck,lasso and a coupla more good dogs in his pedigree.. since german imports are a rarity here i was very very interested.. the dog was quite impresssive looking but a bit middle aged at 6 yrs of age.. one thing that bothered me was that he seemed to have some trouble with his right rear leg.. he had a slight limp in rihght hind leg... he also seemed to tuck up his leg and sit dow.when he was massaged over the right hip area....he also put up a very aggressive display when someone stretched his leg back..clearly showin signs of discomfort.. since we dont have xray facilities for dogs here and also no vet with the qulifications to judge hips could someone shed some light on this...wetehr this is hip dysplasia or prbly just some muscle or other pain which may not be genetic... cos no matter how good he is i dont wanna propagate bad hips in my bloodlines.. so thanx in advance

I would be careful about this dog. Altho it might not be HD but it can also be from arthritis because of his age. In my own opinion I would not breed your female with this dog, trust your scents because it will save you from a lot of lawsuits or possible bad reputation under your belt. If it takes for you to ship your dog somewhere else where to be bred ( that you know has good hips) it's worth the extra buck.

Fida, I have probably asked this before... pardon my senior moment.. what happens to a dog/animal with some sort of injury or possibly life threatening condition?? I just don't understand how a veterinary facility, no matter how small can operate without the most basic of equipment.. Do your hospitals have xray capability? And although most vets do not get the education of a vet who works for OFA, any vet should be able to look at an xray and find glaring problems which it appears this dog may have.... I certainly wouldn't breed to him, does he come from your country...... does he have any sort of joint certification from another country... And I really don't think who is in a pedigree would justify breeding to that dog blindly ...... probably will get slammed here but I never cared for Jeck and heard thru the years hips were an issue with him and Lasso, although beautiful didn't produce much in the drive dept.....

Dkiah, the problem is that my country is a third world countyry...and the veterinary practises here are mostly concentrated on livestock..ppl here keep dogs but can only avail veterinary solutions for less serious problems...as far as modern technological equipments many hospitals for people here dont have all the necessaary facilities that ppl in the west take for granted...it all might seem out of this world but that is the reality ...even india a country soo rich in GSDs also lack many such facilities.. if a dog becomes terminally ill ...and specially if he develops immobilising prbs like hip displasia and the like the dog is in most cases euthanised.. as far as this dog is concerned...HE WAS IMPORTED FROM GERMANY TOGETEHR WITH HIS HALF BROTHER.. his name is TINO VON DER GAMSHOHE here is the link to his pedigree http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/gsd/pedigree/307761.html so i hope u can see what the present condition in my countryt is like with regard to veterinary practice..

fida - Do you know if there is an a-stamp on his papers? I put his registration number in to look up his ZW and it is not listed. - So - more cause for concern - Since you will probably not know the real reason for his limping, etc., I would use somebody else. It could be arthritis or a spinal problem or 10 other things - but if you can't at least know that his hips were normal or nearly normal as a young adult - you are leaving the door wide open for loads of problems.

6yrs old is not middle aged lol IMO anyway.. i prefer an older proven and healthy in all areas stud, over say a 2, 3 or 4 yr old this way you can see what he is producing and hopefully living long enough :) it can be so many things with this dog, what did the owners say? do you trust them? do you know anyone who has bred to this dog? not something to jump into thats for sure... hips are important but there are other issues that are more important like reseaching temperament, bloat, torsion, Dm etc.... make sure his elbows are done as well.. to some, bad elbows are worse than HD for dogs good luck Dawnmarie

Brother Tasso is registered here and on the SV site. His hips are Noch Zugel. and ZW is 106. Diane

Fida, 6yrs. old , the dog could just possibly have a minor spain , ligament problem arthritic pain, but without an xray,no sure way to tell . I'd suggest looking for another stud that's A stamped and also to look @ what he's produced r/t hips....