Mohammad Ali ... CTE .. toxin based Parkinsons and Environment - Page 1

Going through childhood in the birthplace of the racist KKK .. Central Tennessee .. I was not a fan of Mohammad Ali as a child but as I became better educated and adult while following his life it becomes apparent to me that his was an extraordinary life with many good works and deeds. Mohammad Ali was a good man both in and out of the boxing ring which is not always the case with sports heroes that often have clay feet that extend to the top of their head ( Mike Tyson ). Somehow the fact that Ali was diagnosed with pugilistic Parkinsons at 42 years of age ( CTE lite ) has been overlooked or accepted as a cost of doing business for boxers. Not all boxers ( fighters ) get Parkinsons any more than all football players get CTE. The estimate is that 20% of boxers get pugilistic Parkinsons which is now considered a form of CTE. There are some who have opinions ( not proven facts yet ) that all forms of Parkinsons are related to neuro toxins and it is well known that Parkinsons can be caused by drugs and viruses. Not all individuals accumulate these toxins at the same rate. See attached links. The conclusion that I am slowly getting to is that the brain can be injured by a variety of environmental toxins and damage either short term or long term whether caused by fists, drugs, or viruses. Since we as dog owners first wish only for our dogs to live long, healthy and happy lives and second that we live long, healthy and happy lives which are longer than our dogs lives it is in everyone's best interest that both humans and dogs eliminate as much toxicity affecting our brains as possible. Ali was diagnosed with Parkinson's disease at age 42 while other fighters such as Joe Frazier were not affected to the same degree as Ali by the blows that he took and the truth is Ali took a lot fewer punches than many other fighters due to his abilities. All of this points to some individuals either human or animal being more susceptible to environmental toxins which cause diseases or health issues. Please keep these idea in mind when using so called "safe" drugs or vaccines to either yourself or your dogs. Parkinson's killed Ali who was an extraordinary athlete but it took 32 years and a lot of suffering to do the job and so it can be with long term use of pest products and feeding poor quality food to our dogs.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dementia_pugilistica

http://www.webmd.com/parkinsons-disease/news/20050907/environmental-toxins-linked-to-parkinsons

http://www.viartis.net/parkinsons.disease/toxic.causes.htm

http://www.genomenewsnetwork.org/articles/03_01/Toxic_triggers.shtml

A new low for bubba, emotional exploitation to promote yr crazy.

You bait badger are rude to everyone here and then YOU hit the abuse button for a lot less done to you.

Take some time and reread the terms of service maybe write them 100 times as you do not seem to be able to remember them.

People do tend to follow by example. When an environment with superiors are rude and name call, the rest tend to imitate. I can relate to your earlier experiences, bubba, and I see it on forums,also. I grew up in the south where drinking fountains were still seg in school I went to. But its up to each individual to make choice of road to follow....still very important for those in power to say what they wish to be emulated.

RIP, Mr Ali.

Mohammed Ali like many athletes that compete in sports that result in repetitive trauma to the head are at great risk of traumatic brain injuries (TBIs).  I work with a few clients who have been in sports or were soldiers in Iraq and Afghanistan that experienced repetitive IED blasts that caused traumatic brain injuries.  Many of the symptoms of chronic TBI include extreme anger with a very short fuse, low frustration tolerance, confusion, syncope, short and long term memory issues, AD/HD symptoms, vertigo, migraines, insomnia, mood swings, anxiety, depression, tremors, and the list goes on. 

There is a difference between environmental toxins triggering Parkinson's like diseases and TBI causing Parkinson's like symptoms.  The sad thing is the massive changes that Parkinson causes in the brain, one of those changes is depression that is not treatable with medication.  Mohammed Ali experienced chronic TBIs which caused his Parkinson's. 

I am all for sports that children can compete in, I am very much against those sports that cause TBIs on a regular basis.  Children's brains are forming up until adulthood, chronic trauma changes the trajectory of that developing brain.  Parents please be aware of the dangers of TBI at such young ages...........

Ali was diagnosed with Parkinson's disease at 42. Only about 20% of boxers get Parkinson's ever. There is an environmental factor in Parkinson's as most cases are not familial. As with MS and ALS, Parkinson's likely has a component in which those susceptible lack the ability to transport harmful toxins out of their brain or they have a compromised blood-brain barrier that allows toxic compounds to enter the brain. Repetitive trauma can come in both chemical and physical forms. There was an outbreak of viral meningitis after WWI ( sleeping sickness ) and those soldiers who recovered from the viral infection had a much higher rate of Parkinson's disease later in life. Environment plays a central role in neuro degenerative diseases such as ALS, MS, Parkinson's and a host of others. Those of us with dogs should understand the importance of nutrition and toxic load for our animals especially in the first year of life when they are most vulnerable. There are several chemical and professions where those workers are exposed to high toxic loads that are known as Parkinson's triggers.

http://www.viartis.net/parkinsons.disease/toxic.causes.htm

http://www.genomenewsnetwork.org/articles/03_01/Toxic_triggers.shtml

Yes bubbabooboo, toxins and TBI likely led to Ali's Parkinson's; however, there is a genetic predisposition to Parkinson's that can't be ignored.  It is more likely that Ali was predisposed to developing Parkinson's and the toxins and TBI just made sure he got it.  I guess rereading my post, it was not clear I was agreeing with you........

 

Sure there are some genetic associations with Parkinson's .. red heads are twice as likely to get Parkinson's as brunettes and African Americans have a much lower incidence of the disease than Caucasians. Melanin plays a role as a precursor to dopamine but not all types of melanin .. black skin and black hair seems to lower the risk of Parkinson's disease. But it is all over the board with other genetic causes such as a Y chromosome .. in some geographies and nations women ( Japan ) have a higher rate of Parkinson's than men and in other nations it is the reverse. The Amish have a high rate of Parkinson's but the closer related they are the lower the risk. Nebraska has by far the highest rate of Parkinson's in the USA indicating an environmental link to rural locations and possibly pesticides or another geographical environmental factor. The point is that many of these diseases in both dogs and humans have a huge environmental and geographic footprint and focusing on genetics does not get much done if environment is ignored.  I have never seen a single study on the influence of vigorous exercise programs versus sedentary dog park exercise on the liklihood of HD.  Nor have I seen any studies comparing Purina corn flakes as a diet for dogs versus a healthy balanced raw animal protein and fat diet on hips, elbows, DM or longevity.  Everyone wants to focus on genes for many of our dogs diseases when environment is the inconvenient culprit.  Those making money from selling cheap dog food at a high price, too many vaccinations and office visits, or 12 month a year heartworm control in Michigan do not want those practices changed.  It is much better for the government and corporations to eternally study genetics for health problems, later life diseases, ADHD or Alzeimers because finding out that lifelong vaccines, diet sweeteners, or sugar toxicity was the culprit would be bad for business, campaign contributions, taxes, and profits.

lol, (speaking of baiting) Joanro you can try and lay it on me all you want but pretty sure this isn't your first rodeo, nor will it be your last. And it very well shows you cannot take responsibility for your own actions and words. You whine personal attack when someone posts a smiley at you and you use the abuse button like it is a toy to snitch on the people who disagree with you. So, just a guess here but I think you have always been rude, uncivil and just a plain pain in the ass. Since you and VK had to make this about your personal drama, like you do on so many threads, admin actions will and have been taken. Does the name Blitzen ring a bell with you???

Good posts bubba. Ali financially and otherwise sponsored Muhammad Ali Parkinson Center in St Joephs Hospital Phoenix ,

which will be his yet another legacy, where, I suspect, he passed away .

There is nothing wrong to associate his last years with his yet another figh't,.... this time with Parkinson's . Like him or not he was respected fighter on many levels and all his life.

 

RIP Champ!