Conformation opinions, please - Page 2

beautiful dog!

Nice looking young male.  Strong and superbly pigmented.

I would agree with Molly's overall structure critique............I wish you the very best!  He will always turn heads and get compliments.

Nice boy!

That is the ugliest dog I have ever seen! If you send him to me I will make him a real looker, shorten his back and lengthen his legs, all with the use of grooming tools. I will send him back to you ummmmmmmm..... Never? hehehe

He is gorgeous! I love the deep color of his eyes and his expression gives one the impression of true intellegence. He is thinking about what you might want him to do next and trying to decide if he really wants to do it or if he wants to continue running around the yard.

Therese

Yvette,

Every time I see a picture of him, I fall in love.  He's breathtaking. 

Thank you for posting your dog for critique. On a superficial note, great color! He's probably the blackest sable I have ever seen.

Definitelty ONE of  Iltis's best so far...Yvette you're thinking the back is too long because the dog needs to improve on the withers... the rear angulations probably because of outcrossing (non related family members) ... I posted before questions on "how to improve on the withers" but to no date, none of my questions were answered...If you can help me find research on developing withers... 

I kinda noticed one major difference between genetically Herding dogs and other Working dogs is that... Working dogs really have pronounced withers (which I dont know wether its coming from the Spinal processes, the shoulder blades or just plain hard muscles...)  the outline of GSDs  and other Herding dogs nowadays  forms from an inclined neck joining to a straight short back then a sloping croup (backs of  WG lines noticebly shorter) they equate it with agility and stronger backs (roaches)... the standards says that the long back should be composed of a LONG WITHER... SHORT BACK and LONG CROUP... so if you'll do measurements on CHACO... if the withers were higher, he can have a shorter back...

I see race horses being hung by their necks when sleeping...I dont know what its purpose is...but two types of horses would be GALLOPERS(with very pronounced withers) and PACERs (having straight backs)... I think working dogs that pull carriages will definitely have pronounced withers... and other herding dogs (collies and other shepherds) definitely has less pronounced withers making the back longer and straight...

think about it and share with my research on withers...???

marci

If he thorws that head you could charge that $1000 stud fee, of course we will use my girl to try him out on.

Yvette

I have a full brother to your dog.  Looks identical.  It's the only dog my wife will let live in the house.  Great dog.  Mine must be from the litter before yours.  He's @ 6 mo. older.

To everyone else

Just name me a price.  Sounds like Yvette isn't taking offers.

The stack on this dog could be better .  beautiful substancial male

I would rate him judging pic only :)) upper medium , substancial ,strong pigmented  male with a expressive strong head ,slightly streched, straight back,  short but good lay of croup, forehand could be more angulated  very good  to good rear angulation ( gait and stack depends on  good or very good :)) .now if I could see him gait I would continue  . I think this dog is very much like the sire line .

I like him  nice dog SchH babe!!

Pia