USCA in Decline, the Pussification of Schutzhund in America - Page 5

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by Bob McKown on 04 October 2012 - 17:10

If politics curbs your opinion or thoughts and cowers you from stating your ideas or opinions on a subject you better put on the big girl panties or grow a thicker skin. 

by joanro on 04 October 2012 - 18:10

Bob, you're WAY,WAY off the mark. In fact I don't think you even actually read any thing I posted. Either that, or you have a comprehension deficit :-/

Elkoorr

by Elkoorr on 04 October 2012 - 19:10

I dont get it. GSDCA-WDA has to play by the same IPO rules, so does anyone in the world who participates. Shouldnt this be more a complaint toward FCI, who is making and acknowledging rules and changes?

Thanks to nowadays technologies one can always modify their training, methods and equipment as they please; make video of it, post it on youtube and trompet their accomplishments. Nobody is required to participate in the sport of Schutzhund.

The word pussification feels almost like a slap in the face when you are doing the work it takes to achieve an IPO title. Or even more, if you do the work and you know that your dog may never get that title, but has a hell of a good time doing the exercises.

VKGSDs

by VKGSDs on 04 October 2012 - 19:10

But it also feels kinda crappy when you DID the work and got the title, and then someone else also got the title when the dog skipped both articles on a track and ran off the field in obedience and protection....

by joanro on 04 October 2012 - 20:10

VKgsds, LOL. I know exactly what you mean. How about when the other dog in your flight breaks the long down, following his handler, the handler has to go back twice to put their dog into the down....then during the critique, the judge reprimands you when it was the other handler/dog that had the problem!

Elkoorr

by Elkoorr on 05 October 2012 - 01:10

VkGSDs and Joan, I do understand this. But what your are describing are a judging problems, not a problem with the rules itself.

How I understood Engels is that the exercises are "softened up" to enable more dogs to pass, with the SV being the strongest embassador of it. What I dont understand is the direct reference to USCA in connection to showline dogs and Roetemyer like its their fault. Maybe I am missing an important piece of information.

by joanro on 05 October 2012 - 01:10

Elkoor, I believe you are correct, but the dog I referenced passed, as did I. But, the judging is so slack or else ridiculously stringent, there isn't any uniformity. Seems as tho the rules are up for any ambiguous interpretation. That's what I've seen anyway.

by brynjulf on 05 October 2012 - 01:10

Trial like you are shooting for a perfect score.  It will not matter who is judging. 

by joanro on 10 October 2012 - 13:10

It does matter who is judging...I have female who retrieves really fast. Judges loved her at trials. Except one judge who slammed her for fast rerieves. When I watched a dog that he gave a very positive critique on it's retrieving, I realized he likes dogs to walk out to the dumb bell, pick it up slowly, and walk back to the handler. How in the heck can you train for that much disparity in performance when your dog is energetic and precise?





 


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