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Now we could argue about the special stance of Bavaria within Germany... 

When have you been there, and for how long?
Must have been at least one generation + ago -
times changed a lot, my generation grew up with the first immigrants, the generation of my son grew up with friends from all over the world. The current generation doesn´t care about heritage at all.
And in case you really felt unwanted because of heritage I apologize for the behavior of my landsmen.

Hundmutter do not try to paint me a racist. I am here defending blacks all over the place. I would like them to see how democrats and establishment republicans are using them to stay in power . And I am not the only one who does so.
Your assumption about me is quite flawed by your simplicity as far as Germans goes too. Nowhere have I make such generalization. There are good and bad people everywhere. All I am talking about is my personal experience and historical facts and socio-political experience. You on the other hand when you have no valid arguments, which is usually the case, like good fanatical liberal you can just point finger and scream RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACIST! You and people like are truly are sad.

Just read your last post:
The statistic I posted does show the amount of immigrants within one year ( 2012 ).
You need to distinguish between normal immigrants, asylum seekers, and immigrants because of "German heritage".

It became a lot more within the last couple of years...( and nobody counted "illegals"...).


Nobody doubts the % of immigrants as a whole is bigger in the States, the States have been choice #1 for immigrants for decades ( better said for more than 300 years...). Can you imagine the USA without immigrants?

I did not use the accusation "racist", you confuse me with other posters. But if the cap fits, as they say, you should wear it. What other conclusion should readers come to about your posts on these threds, when you constantly generalise about different groups and how bad they are in whatever ways, when you insist you know better than others how 'all' of them subscribe to your own, detrimental definitions of e.g. what a Muslim IS/MUST BE... As for your posting 'all over' on here in defence of black people, sorry I must be going blind or the Alzeimers is taking over, as I cannot recall seeing any such posts - and nor apparently has Admin for instance, or he'd say so, wouldn't he ?

No you did not use the word racist. And don't say you are "sorry" if you are not. You did not see me defending blacks? That is funny you have even commented like that I am " in the wrong forum" when I have done so. Well I am posting all over the place that Democrat Plantation as it is called by some black leaders like Quanel X https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nuQZpU92iNw, are using blacks to enhance their voting numbers by fear mongering against republicans yet artificially keeping blacks in poverty. After all after 50 years of promises of improvements the democrats themselves claim the blacks are worse  and worse off. And they are right yet blacks are continually buying Democrats lie. Of course democrats  can not blame Black's powerty and high crime and so on on Bush any more since Obama is in power for 8 years and republicans are like pussies signing   anything democrats come with down the pike. It is despicable. One is not much better then the other. And when someone with anti-establishments message comes being it Trump or Sanders then they are being painted, too old, crazy, and bigots or racists and KKK and other lying nonsense and people voting for them  are called stupid ,... all that while useful idiots are clapping and cheering tor a establishment crook and liar.

What ARE you going on about, now ? I am only sorry for MY lack of memory / visual acuity... I wasn't apologising to you - falsely or otherwise. You should read your new thred before accusing me, too, as I explained on it why your OP got moved ! Oh, by the way, I alerted the admins to that without actually reading your linked material. Was not going to bother to read more of the vile dross you keep spreading on behalf of Enema and others.

BUT IF IT IS 'PRO BLACK', then I will comment this far: one (new) post is NOT "posting all over"...

Hundmutter is right, your post "Trump is right.." was listed on the "main forum", later on was removed to "off topic", where it belongs, no joke, Hundmutter just wondered, so did I.

I had to google for "Quanell X", as a German I am not really used to American activists ( no matter the color ), sorry.
The maybe most informative summary of his life may be on Wikipedia, did you read that ( and maybe some other stuff, based on different sources ) ? Although it´s difficult to know which sources to believe in, he doesn´t seem to be a person, I´d like to deal with... ( never met him, maybe the www. wrongs him, I don´t know, and I guess, I´ll never know ).

For me it´s a shame that in 2016 political parties still feel the need to struggle for the votes of any "race" ( in this case African Americans ). They should struggle for the votes of "individuals", no matter the color. Why does color still matter? Why do people still believe in "races", not in "individuals"?

I met several African Americans ( why the heck do we STILL call them "African" Americans? A lot of them/their ancestors are living in the USA way longer than a lot of "European" "immigrants" ), and out of my experience all of them have been able to think on their own ( and I believe, they still are ) , so color doesn´t seem to influence their mind ...

ANY political party should care about education ( no matter the color ), and should take care about integration ( not limited to black people, but by taking care of ALL people ).

It´s a shame society still distinguishes between black, white, red, yellow..."we" could do better - all of us.

Absolutely agree, Susie.

One thing that I think I might explain about the use of words in my own posts is that I refer still to "black" people, (or, wider, 'people of colour') because in the UK we do not HAVE "African Americans", we have mostly citizens whose roots are African (without the American bit !). Our black populations come from either the West Indies, most of them directly & without the America factor, because of the British historical involvement resulting in migration of people from Jamaica, Trinidad & Tobago, Barbados, Bermuda and other islands; or from Africa direct, whether that is from Nigeria, Ghana, Somalia, Uganda, Botswana and any number of others. So I stick with what most of these communities identify with themselves as a description.

Susie: For me it´s a shame that in 2016 political parties still feel the need to struggle for the votes of any "race" ( in this case African Americans ). They should struggle for the votes of "individuals", no matter the color. Why does color still matter? Why do people still believe in "races", not in "individuals"?

Hans: I absolutely agree. But it is what it is. When I was coming to US I was taken aback by preoccupation with race > Of course it is what is it is. It is based on old Greek concept divide et impera = divide and rule and later it was masterfully utilized by the Roman ruler Caesar and the French emperor Napoleon and it is going on until today. Hitler needed unite the nation behind the cause so he fanatized Germans into hating Jews,. Marxists, Slavs,... in name of lebensraum = living space for Germans. Marxists like Lenin have done the same thing by dividing nation among czar and proletariat and rich and poor, bolschevicks  vs menschevicks , white (socialists)   vs red..... Today politicians are dividing nation on men vs women, poor vs rich, black vs whites , Liberal vs conservatives, gun owners vs gun controllers ,...,.and on and on and on. That is how politician gain and maintain their power . They do it by pitting one minor group against other and promising to each group that they will protect them from the other group so that the protected will vote for them. But of course it is all scheme. With rare exceptions like for example Enrique Gorostieta Velarde and so on. But generally politicians can not care less for you. Have you noticed that they all promise and then they do not deliver ? And in these matters uneducated masses do not see it and willingly participate in it. They are the "useful idiots" Lenin was supposedly talking about. Or  the useful innocents which  appear  in Austrian-American economist Ludwig von Mises books . This is how it is and this is how it will be as long as people will let politicians to manipulate them as they do. They manipulate them by dumbing them down and providing them outlet of watching games and other entertainment and by making promisses whcih then then do not keep.  
So I advice to people. Be smart , there is too many idiots out there already . We do not need any more.
“The only freedom you truly have is in your mind, so use it.”
― M.T. Dismuke

That "old Greek concept 'divide et impera'..." as written in poor Latin ? When did the ancient Greeks start speaking Italian, I wonder, while ROFL.

Hans, 'it is what it is', there will always be 'cannon fodder' / 'useful idiots' / whatever phrase or title you want to use for people who form the under-educated masses in any society.  Whoever is currently using them to make an argument for deciding the path of society that they wish to take. Get used to it. Doesn't mean we shouldn't try to rise over it and strive for our own views of a better society (and try to bring them upwards with us). In my case I know that would be a socialist version that brings benefits out of the hands of the ridiculously rich & powerful, and into the use of the majority. In your case I really have no idea WHAT ideals you would strive for, I just know I would not like to be an ordinary Muslim citizen going about my own business if YOU took the power !