Stud dog question? Does he exist? - Page 7

if you do not know blood lines nor understand the use, you must '' reinvent the wheel'' each time you breed. Watch combinations of pedigrees that you admire. Is there a click? If you do not believe in blood lines I guess you must say there are two types of GSDs. One  type that should be bred, and the other type must never be bred. Then you must have a criteria to detemine the difference. You set the bar of no-breed or can-breed. Set the bar correctly! 

gsdstudent..sending you a PM

I didn't read that other thread, Smiley. If you know what Sky needs, then heed what Gustav said. It can be as simple or as complcated as you want to make it.

Didn't I say on page ONE not to look for a "perfect" male but to look at the female and breed to strengthen her weaknesses? Now on page 3-4 it's become a novel thought? 

Why is that such an odd concept?

Blitzen, she did outline her female's flaws (as she perceives them) in the other thread. But I agree that it should probably be in this thread because most people simply aren't interested enough to do that much research to help someone else find a stud. Heck, half the time people only read the last page before they start commenting, lol. 

Too true, Jenni! 

IMO, if the female has too many weaknesses or major ones, no male is going "strengthen" them...a female should be strong to begin with rather than trying to fix her weaknesses.

Glad I was able to find this in my archives. It's very relevant to the discussion!

From an interview with Koos Hassing of Tiekerhook Kennels:

Alfred Hahn, from the kennel “vom Busecker Schloss, was very clear. He told me: “Koos, if you want to improve the German Shepherd Dog, and I know that is your goal, then consider this for the future. One can improve the anatomy of the German Shepherd in only a few generations. But to improve temperament, character, and the necessary working abilities takes much much longer. Good males will always be around, so focus on the quality of your brood bitches!” In my opinion, [Koos's] the pure truth, spoken by a very experienced breeder and Körmeister.

A clarification,

 

In my post on page two I said, I quote myself "  GSD is a trotter, its structure complements that. GSD was not meant to be a sport dog though it should be able to do sport and agility." End of quote

Quote from FCI 166,

Gait 
The German Shepherd Dog is a trotter. The limbs must be coordinated in length and angulations so that the dog can shift the hindquarters towards the trunk without any essential change of the top line and can reach just as far with the forelimbs. Any tendency towards over-angulation of the hindquarters reduces the stability and the stamina, and thereby the working ability.  End of quote 

So what I said was GSD is a trotter, I did not say nor do I think GSD was made for trotting, there is big difference.

In another post after that one I said, I quote myself "  GSD IS a trotter, its structure is designed to best suit trotting"

Again FCI 166

Gait

Gait 
The German Shepherd Dog is a trotter. The limbs must be coordinated in length and angulations so that the dog can shift the hindquarters towards the trunk without any essential change of the top line and can reach just as far with the forelimbs. Any tendency towards over-angulation of the hindquarters reduces the stability and the stamina, and thereby the working ability. 

So I said its structure is designed to suit trotting. That is the breed standard and it is important to know that GSD IS A TROTTER. Correct structure compliments trotting. By correct structure/conformation I do not mean overangulation, we all know what correct angulation in the front and rear is.

Breeds are man designed, if anyone thinks nature should do the proper practical structure maybe he/she should not buy/breed purebred dogs. Each breed has its distinct type, if one thinks work GSD is a breed on its own, then as far as type is concerned it wasn't very successful. Type is important, concentrating on outward type and diregarding temperament/work ability is the fault, type is not the fault.

One last thing, you breed and maintain the breed from inside out, I personally have no objection to that, but please note the norm work breeder breeds and maintains from inside but forgets about the outside.

 

Ibrahim 

WL breeder(s) "forgets about the outside."   

Nonsense.  

Kevin

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Yep, Joan, exactly right. I said that, too. Back on page 1. 

Breed on a strong dam line...all that jazz. Complement, don't try to "fix." Blah blah blah. Hey, in another 5 pages, maybe someone can say it again and it will be even more novel and exciting. LOL