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by Ibrahim on 06 December 2013 - 15:12
Strength: It is the substance of the dog, structure frame, masculinity for the male, bones shape, face features, tendons, ligaments, joints, muscles and so on. A well prepared dog for shows would look fit and strong. Strength is not equivalent to size or weight.
by Ibrahim on 06 December 2013 - 15:12
What do you think?
by sonora on 09 December 2013 - 00:12
Hi,
My take on Type and Expression is as follows:
Type :1) In the head- the GSD.
a)must be calm, with the correct temperamant.
b)The head structure, must indicate if the dog is a male or female.
2) The GSD. must be within the standard requirments. i. e.
a) Height
b) Proportions
c) Strength (musculature)
Expression:1) Takes into consideration the following:
a) The alert look( facial expression ) of a GSD.,
with the correct structure of the head,
the placement of the ears
and the dark colour of the mask and eyes.
My take on Type and Expression is as follows:
Type :1) In the head- the GSD.
a)must be calm, with the correct temperamant.
b)The head structure, must indicate if the dog is a male or female.
2) The GSD. must be within the standard requirments. i. e.
a) Height
b) Proportions
c) Strength (musculature)
Expression:1) Takes into consideration the following:
a) The alert look( facial expression ) of a GSD.,
with the correct structure of the head,
the placement of the ears
and the dark colour of the mask and eyes.
by SitasMom on 09 December 2013 - 12:12
sonora, is this SV or FCI?
by sonora on 11 December 2013 - 23:12
SitasMom,
This was how I was thought , by the SV judges.
I'm sorry, I don't understand your question SV or FCI .
This was how I was thought , by the SV judges.
I'm sorry, I don't understand your question SV or FCI .
by SitasMom on 12 December 2013 - 11:12
sonora, i was asking if this was for SV system or FCI system of judging. you answered the question, thank you.

by Hundmutter on 12 December 2013 - 15:12
Although I have been reading this thred as it has gone along, I didn't
enter the debate yet; I nearly did when we got to defining "type", but
then someone beat me to it by quoting Dr Willis (which is what I would
have done). I'll see if I can find any other definitions in my library ...
Can I just say about "expression" that I rather like that (American ?)
version: the "look of eagles". I think that sums up all those diverse
bits about the facial characteristics,eye colour, general 'air' of the dog, etc,
and paints a mental picture for me of what a proud, noble, correct-headed
GSD should convey. [Of course, MY 'look of eagles' might be different from
someone else's 'LOE'
]
I feel that one of the problems we all share is that so many critiques we read,
even when they are proper Show critiques from 'qualified' judges, are not always
consistent (as already pointed out, above), plus they frequently lose value in
less than adequate translation. Inaccurate use of punctuation can be confusing
too. I try not to be too critical of language etc mishaps, especially given the
multi-national cross section posting to the forums here; but when it comes to
standardisation of the terminology used for specific purposes, like criticques of
dogs, I can't help feeling it would improve understanding if everyone was able to
use the same, technical, terms.
enter the debate yet; I nearly did when we got to defining "type", but
then someone beat me to it by quoting Dr Willis (which is what I would
have done). I'll see if I can find any other definitions in my library ...
Can I just say about "expression" that I rather like that (American ?)
version: the "look of eagles". I think that sums up all those diverse
bits about the facial characteristics,eye colour, general 'air' of the dog, etc,
and paints a mental picture for me of what a proud, noble, correct-headed
GSD should convey. [Of course, MY 'look of eagles' might be different from
someone else's 'LOE'

I feel that one of the problems we all share is that so many critiques we read,
even when they are proper Show critiques from 'qualified' judges, are not always
consistent (as already pointed out, above), plus they frequently lose value in
less than adequate translation. Inaccurate use of punctuation can be confusing
too. I try not to be too critical of language etc mishaps, especially given the
multi-national cross section posting to the forums here; but when it comes to
standardisation of the terminology used for specific purposes, like criticques of
dogs, I can't help feeling it would improve understanding if everyone was able to
use the same, technical, terms.
by Ibrahim on 12 December 2013 - 15:12
Excellent post Hundmutter 
And thank you for "I try not to be too critical of language etc mishaps, especially given the
multi-national cross section posting to the forums here"
Makes my misery less, lol

And thank you for "I try not to be too critical of language etc mishaps, especially given the
multi-national cross section posting to the forums here"
Makes my misery less, lol

by Hundmutter on 12 December 2013 - 18:12
Told you B4, you have nothing to be miserable about, your command of
English is excellent, Ibrahim !
Signing off for the night, bye bye. Will come back tomorrow with anything
useful I might find. Great topic.
English is excellent, Ibrahim !
Signing off for the night, bye bye. Will come back tomorrow with anything
useful I might find. Great topic.
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