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Chaz Reinhold

by Chaz Reinhold on 26 April 2011 - 15:04

Wow, RayRay! Do I have to be a homophobic racist to be a good christian?

raymond

by raymond on 26 April 2011 - 15:04

I am neither homophobic or a racist! I hate all wickedness !LOL so  you see I do not discriminate  at all! Jesus calls homosexuality an abomination and racism hatred! I am quilty of neither! but those who agree with hoosexuality and racism are partakers in the wickedenss! Oh are you calling me a homophob and racist? Hmm isn't that a tos violation?

Chaz Reinhold

by Chaz Reinhold on 26 April 2011 - 15:04

Ray, where does Jesus say these things?

raymond

by raymond on 26 April 2011 - 15:04

Why do you ask? You have no desire to understand or find the truth!I can show you but you will refuse to believe it! So why should I waste my time ? did you call me a homophobe and racist? If you desire a lesson in theology it will cost you extra!LOLBut I wil give you this paraphrased quote for free! Jesus said   that anyone who hates his brother with out a cause is a murderer! Wow  that is pretty deep!  If I hate that person of color for no valid reason I am labeled a murderer! so your accusation of me being a racist is mute! I do not hate anyone! Especially my brethern! But unbelievers are not my brothers! Unbelievers have satan as their father because they do his will! Are you understanding this deep theological lesson??? NO!!!!  Unbelievers are my neighbors and Jesus commanded me to love you as I love  myself! Yep; way over your head! So the commandment for me to love  my neighbor( You the unbeliever ) is stronger than loving my brethern(believers)! Because unbelievers are blind and  decieved  by the god of this world whom they serve!

GSDguy08

by GSDguy08 on 26 April 2011 - 18:04

raymond, it seems like a lot of people call Christians homophobic.  We don't agree with it, because of what the scriptures teach....but we don't hate or get freaked out because someone is gay...Well, christians shouldn't anyway.  I have a friend who is gay.....do I support that he's gay...not at all. Am I his friend, yes? Should I study with him about it, yes.  I know a family whos sun eventually turned into a homosexual.....do they support that....no, they tell him each time he comes back home to visit that they will study what the scriptures have to say.  Are they freaked out when he comes around? Do they love him any less? Of course not. Raymond you do have good intentions, but I notice a lot of mockery in your posts. With the "LOL"s ....And when you make comments about it being way over their head, or how they won't understand what you're saying.....As a Christian, should you really talk like that towards others?   

Edit: It helps if I spell correctly.....The family has a son...not sun, lol

Red Sable

by Red Sable on 26 April 2011 - 18:04

Homosexuality  is mentioned in the New Testament  in 1Timothy 1 vs 10 and Romans 1:26, Old Testament, Leviticus 18:22.  The Bible is very clear on it (the act itself). 

Jesus didn't come to abolish the Law but to fulfil it -  and that He did.

Homosexuality  is just one of a list of many sins.  We all have demons we struggle with.

Nicely put GSDguy.




gouda

by gouda on 26 April 2011 - 18:04

 Hi GSDguy08

I agree with you in part,but agree totally in these scriptures.

Romans 1:20-30.

1-For the invisible things of Him from the creation of the world are clearly seen,being understood by the things that are made,even His eternal power and Godhead;SO THAT THEY ARE WITH OUT EXCUSE;
21  Because that,when they knew God,they glorified him not as God,neither were thankful;but BECAME VAIN in their imaginations,and their foolish heart was darkened.
22 Professing themselves to be wise,they BECAME FOOLS.
23 And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God INTO AN IMAGE MADE LIKE TO CORRUPTIBLE MAN, AND TO BIRDS,AND FOURFOOTED BEASTS,AND CREEPING THINGS.
24 Wherefore God also gave them over to uncleanness through the LUST OF THEIR OWN HEARTS,to dishonour their own bodies BETWEEN THEMSELVES.
25Who changed the truth of God IN TO A LIE,AND WORSHIPPED AND SERVED THE creature MORE THEAN THE CREATOR,who is blessed forever.  Amen.
26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affection:for even their woman did change the natural use into WHICH IS AGAINST NATURE.
27 And likewise also the men,leaving the natural use of the woman,BURNED IN THEIR LUST ONE TOWARD ANOTHER;men wih men working that which is unseemingly,and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was met.
28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge,God GAVE THEM OVER TO A REPROBATE MIND,TO DO THOSE THINGS WHICH ARE NOT CONVENIENT.

READ THE LAST 4 VERSES IN THIS CHAPTER.

 Also read 1COR.1:6-9

Not much time left ,to pussy foot around,tomorrow could be to late

  Have a good evening

GSDguy08

by GSDguy08 on 26 April 2011 - 19:04

gouda, I'm familiar with those scriptures. Are you saying I disagree with them? You should know that I don't.

Chaz Reinhold

by Chaz Reinhold on 26 April 2011 - 19:04

So those ARE jesus's words?

GSDguy08

by GSDguy08 on 26 April 2011 - 19:04

Chaz, the books he's referring to were written by Apostles of Jesus.





 


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