Sportism - Page 36

Read my edited counter offer, I don't want to learn dog training from you, I want you to be a chew toy for my dog.

If I want to learn dog training I would invite gsdfan, duke or slam.

please bring a heart health clearance from a doctor, no offense you look kinda soft.

I only want you roughed up by my dog, not killed.

I asked you before, but I got no answer - was the dog "Jet" trained exclusively with "your" training method? He looks like a IPO foundation trained dog, but I might be wrong, same, but not that much expressed, the dog "Odin" ( "green" prospect"?).
Would be helpful to know their age, too.
The sable one is "different"....

Just my observation out of 3 short clips, once again, I might be wrong, but for my own sake I´d really like to know.

Hans, in TRAINING it is not smart to work a dog past exhoustion, dog will make mistakes, loose focus and will not learn , IMO one should train a dog till he understands and works without mistakes and only then start to expand training sessions

@duke.

Also, for those people who want to make the most progress in a training session, talk over the session and what you want to do BEFORE you start. Discuss with the decoy the objective of that session, what you want decoy to do, and any "cues" you want to set up. Then keep the session short, intense and the talking to a minimum to make effective use of the dog's drive/intensity. If mistakes are made then move past them and end session on a win for the dog.     If needed then bring dog out later for another session to work on problem areas, but keep each session short so dog does not "wilt".

And please don't let your dog guzzle water like that, sponge bath it and let it catch it's breath and limit access to water for a while.

basic newb stuff that will keep yr dog alive.

Good boy Shadow

Anyone who thinks that dog was heading into avoidance doesn't understand the reading of a dog .

what ever duke. Again please do not tell me how smart I am if you can not even comprehend what I am saying. I have said:

".....work them to the point ( not "past" ,  you see?) of exhaustion. That is part of the stress training. Dogs who only work in AC when they are comfortable will fail when they get tired. Also physical conditioning IMO demands that dogs are trained pass the point of comfort." ( not exhaustion, you see? ) 

Nowhere have I said "past the point of exhaustion"   as you  are saying . 

 

Hans 

koos I disagree. First you are assuming and you know what assume means. !!Of course we always discuss "BEFORE" what we will do during take in a session.  I am not making video of that though. The training session is fluent succession of variables no matter how well you plan and thus it needs to be continually adjusted. To, as you suggest,  stop the session when mistakes are made and move pass them is totally wrong because dogs will learn wrong thing especially  if you reward him after such mistake as you suggest. That is trivial 101 on training. Mistake IMO opinion must be corrected immediately. At least how I do it. You can of course to what ever you want. 

Also I have explained why I periodically push the dog out of physical comfort level. This is not a sport training objective as you do it. This is preparing dogs to work even if tired. Obviously strange concept for some.
Also these videos are posted because it was demanded by gsdfan who was totally convinced that dogs trained by me  would have shallow front bite. Of course bites were not shallow so detractors must nitpick on other details. I would like to see some of your videos of training civil LE/PP dogs koos. Unedited please.