AKC CH with BH and/or AD?? - Page 2

I'm a bit confused. Surely if a dog is akc ch ( which i assume means champion) that dog should at least have

Obediance and endurance titles. These titles are fairly easy to obtain compared to say ipo, sch. So my question would be 

Why would this be seen as an achievement. 

Ps: im not trying to be funny but just need some clarity, thanks.

In AKC, the dog does not need any other title to be a CH. It is an accomplishment, as you can see, because the AKC conformation folks don't typically venture onto the Schutzhund field. Would love to see more that did! 

Melissa

I don't know but as I recall, the AD, VB, B and BH were never considered degrees for a German Shepherd Dog. They were pre-requesites to degrees and as such were not intended to be listed as actual degrees like; SchH, FH, IPO, DPO, KKL, HGH, etc., and the AKC training degrees.

Breeds other than GSDs commonly listed the AD and BH, B, VB etc., as titles.

Melba is correct, Waleed. Anything else owners do with AKC CH's other than that title is optional. Some do other things, some don't - I do. I don't think that title is enough. In the US we are notoriously resistant to being told how to do anything and regulating breeding and showing dogs more would never go over well here. So, we try to trial our dogs for additonal titles because we want to do the best job we can, not because we must.

It's the way it works when one lives in a democracy which is why most people live in America in the first place .

The GSDCA  recognizes AD's and BH's when they compute the recipients of their annual Dual Awards and Dual Awards Excellent. In addition, the canine recipients must be owned by a GSDCA member, have normal hips and elbows, and also be an AKC CH of record. As far as I know the club doesn't recognize those accomplishments in any other way. I'm guessing that most members don't even know what a BH or AD stands for.

Can you define American Bred? There may be dogs bred here out of German lines that have them all.

American Bred AKC CH would be a dog that was conceived and whelped in the US. Bloodlines wouldn't matter.

I do know about CH. Nocturne's Navigator, Sch 3, KKL1. Just trying to learn if any other breeders are currently showing and titling in both venues.

If you can get BH and AD on her akc pedigree, then i bet you can add it to the catalog.

"Effective December 31, 2009 the AKC started recording Working Dog titles earned in events held by existing organizations, if requested by a breed Parent Club. The organization must be approved by the AKC Performance Events Department. Titles to be recorded require Board approval. The recording of the title on an AKC pedigree will be done at the request of the dog’s owner for a fee set by the AKC.

In addition, AKC clubs will be permitted to invite the other organization to hold its Working Dog event in conjunction with the AKC club’s AKC event, as long as it is clear in the publicity that the former is being held under the auspices of another organization."

http://www.gsdca-wda.org/documents/pdf/programs/AKCtitles/howtorecordtitle.pdf
http://www.gsdca-wda.org/documents/pdf/programs/AKCtitles/recognizedtitles.pdf
http://www.gsdca-wda.org/documents/pdf/programs/AKCtitles/applicationforworkingdogtitle.pdf

Hope these links work.
AD is not in the list of recognized titles, but BH is.
 

Linda Burger's Allie did both a BH and FH at Keystone-Buckeye Hundesport--on a bitter December weekend.