E-collar recommendations - Page 2

Be very careful with a two dog collar. Someone I train with once had her one dog out, and could not figure out why it wasn't working so kept cranking it up... turns out she had it set on the other dog's (who was still in her crate in the truck) collar.

I'm glad to have a dog who responds well enough without the use of one.

I have the Tr- Tronics Pro 100 I have never had an issue and has lots of reach. I would buy another just like it again if it failed.

I wouldn't skimp on an E collar.  I would be very careful with a $29 or $69 collar.  The collar will not be reliable enough to deliver a consistent correction.

oh, good someone else with vast experience with these collars...thank god I read this thread..LOL..
 

Here is a suggestion and it works for my girl.  Originally I bought an e collar off Amazon. It worked for about 8 months and then I couldn't charge the collar any longer. However, the training had paid off on it and it seemed as soon as I put it on her, she immediately smartened up even though it wasn't working.As time marched on she started to figure out it was just fake jewelery and so my hunt was on to replace it. TSC stores in Orangeville had dog training collars on sale for $39.99, a beep and vibrate one only. When I put this new one on her the vibrate works so well she comes to immediate attention. Today, I only ever have to use the beep and she knows. I beep, she comes to me. Maybe you could for a month or so, borrow someone's e collar, and then go to TSC and pick up a beep vibrate only one. When the vibrate is on high, you can feel the earth shake. Isn't the ultimate purpose of these collars to ultimately not have to use the shock part because you have trained the dog to know what comes after the beep.

Just a suggestion.

The problem dog is my rescue, so I am fairly sure I will only need the one collar. However, my male HAS been in the odd fight during his life, AND he's the one that was already bitten by her, so it would be nice if the transmitter could handle 2 collars, just in case.
Hope it doesn't come to that.

[Rereads Jim's post]  I would never think of putting 2 collars on one dog. Not surprised these dogs are screwed up!

The dog is doing very well with on-leash obedience, and we will be trying our CGN (Canadian version of CGC) this Wednesday. The one exercise I'm most worried about is the meet-and-greet with the examiner. She's TO DARN FRIENDLY, and likes to break her sit, so she can lean right against the person's legs and get more lovin'!  She's done really well with meeting an on-leash dog. It's when I put her on a long-line so she can interact freely with another dog that things go south! 

She's okay with being corrected by me, and since she'll be getting a verbal reprimand as well as a collar reprimand, I have no doubt she will know the corrections is coming from me, and not the other dog!

Hope we can get this licked. She was in a cage with both another GSD and an Aussie mix at the shelter, so she's not hopeless when it comes to dog-on-dog interactions! 

Eldee, thanks for the suggestion. I tried to go that route, but unfortunately, my trainer's old collar, which she is looking to replace, has given up the ghost! We now have a TSC store in Bradford, so I will take a look at what they have. It's always nice if you can avoid shipping charges!

I'll also ask around the club, and see if someone has one I can borrow to try out.

Edit: Well, the PETA folks have struck again. TSC does not list e-collars in its online store, only collars that vibrate and beep!





 

I have to agree that I would not skimp on an e-collar for all of the reasons mentioned.  You may think now that you only need it for this one instance but once you get some experience with one, you will find all sorts of ways to put it to use.  I have been using a Tri-Tronics Pro 500 G3 that I borrowed from a friend.  It's an excellent collar but very expensive...far more than you have to spend.  I will probably be buying a collar of my own soon and have been looking at the Dogtra 1900ncp which I've seen online for as low as $202.00 with free shipping although $229.00 seems to be the most prevalent price.  It is a one dog unit, which is all I need, and has very good reviews.

YOU need to think over what you're wanting the E-Collar for...then find the one (the model) that does what you want...For instance...each E-Collar company has a number of models...Some for One dog...some for Two dogs...Do you really need that...What kind of dogs and behaviors are you trying to use the collar on...

If you're wanting a collar to help with problems for a large dog...German Shepherd...Rotty...etc...then you probably need a Higher level collar...

I certainly wouldn't go with a cheap collar...It just doesn't pay...Tri-Tronics and Dogtra are probably the best in the U.S....

You could post a request on different forums requesting a used collar and many people have them that no longer use them or aren't training any longer...

I think if you purchase a cheaper model collar from a pet store...I think you'll find it WON'T do what you're trying to achieve...So you've wasted money and time...It would be much better to maybe borrow a collar and try them out to see what you really need...then save enough money to buy what you really need...

Remember: If you do buy a used collar...that the batteries have a "limited life" and will and can deteriorate sooner...Some you can replace the batteries but sometimes that costs as much as buying a new or newer one...

I think another way to find a used collar is to contact your local Schutzhund Clubs and ask if any members might have a used collar that they're willing to sell...

~Bob~

LadyFrost,
I sense some sarcasm in your response. 

For me, and as Qman has correctly stated, a cheap E collar is a cheap E collar.  I was in the Pet industry for a very long time and have met many manufacturers at Trade Shows, Distributor Open Houses and on sales calls.  I have had the opportunity to get to know many reps from various manufacturers and discuss their products and the competitors.  I have also been involved with SchH and working dogs for a little while.  Although, I may not have experience with the exact collar that you own, I have a fair amount of experience with several brands of E collars.  I have tried, tested and used a few different ones.  IME, the cheaper ones are not as reliable, will not deliver a timely correction and the levels of stimulation can fluctuate.  I have had this happen and experienced it firsthand.  When my dog is trained on a command and understands a command, he has under 2 seconds to perform that command.  More like 1 1/2 seconds.  I have seen e collars that have been delayed in their stimulation by almost a second.  For me that is unacceptable as timing is everything with dog training.  I expect an instantaneous response from the transmitter to the collar.  If Sunsilver is going to use a collar for correcting dog behavior that is too much lag time and she will miss the mark.  I have gone so far to hold e collars in my hand and stim them to see how long the response takes.  I can tell you that the Dogtra was instant, slightly ahead of the tri-tronics.  But we are talking very fine differences almost negligible. 

Sorry, but I spend more than $29 on my prong collars and will only use Herm Sprenger.  I spend more than that on my leather collars and close to that for a leash.  I don't skimp on leashes, collars or any training equipment that I own.  Unfortunately, most of my collars and leads out last the life of the dog.  I have leather leashes that are 15+ years old.  Please don't be offended that I disagreed with you, if it works for your needs great.  The electronics in an E collar are pretty sophisticated and for what I do I want precision and reliability. 

JMO FWIW

muah? NEVER!  although I suspect....slight flutter of eyelashes on my innocent face must have given me away....LOL..and you being a man with keen sense for slightest detail must have picked it up.

I'm sorry if this is a really lame question but why do you want a dog aggressive dog to freely interact with other dogs? I expect my DA dog to have self-control around other dogs but he remains on leash or under command (ie. heeling or in a stay) when he is off-leash.