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I'm not a fan of showline dogs, but I like this one. He seems a bit short backed, but that might be because his rear is angled a bit away from the camera. He seems very functionally built with no extremes. A good looking dog!

thanks for all,





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If you are going to show him, I would have him lose a little weight. He is a bit heavy. A dog always looks better in a show when it is lean and fit.

thanks!

i'm abit confused here. Ibrahim says slightly flat withers whereas Sonora says high withers? What am i missing?

I'm not good at critiqueing but I do know what I like....and I like him.
Very nice male. 

tranducgsd I will agree with Ibrahim's critique but all that his forearm could be longer

The photos of your dog walking shows the wither situation, the wither is a bit lower then his back.

Hi Waleed,
My critique was based on the first photograph.
The status of the withers, is indicated by
the position of the top of the shoulder blade in relation to the top of the dorsal spines &  back.

The withers is described as : a) High Withers   - when the top of the shoulder blade  is positioned higher  than the top of the  dorsal spines & back in a stack.
                                              (The dip between the shoulder blades, allows the muscle to anchor itself)
                                          b) Level Withers   - when the top of the shoulder blade is positioned level with the back and the top of the dorsal spines.
                                          c) Low Withers    -  When the top of the shoulder blade  is lower than the back, where he top of the shoulder blade is lower than the top of the dorsal spines.
                                          
                                             Quote from Mr.Louis Donald's Lecture on the GSD .
                         Please locate and read the whole lecture for a better understanding, it's simply fantastic.
                                  "As the dorsal spines thoracic vertebrae get lower in relation to the top of the scapula
                                              the top of the shoulder blades get higher in relation to the top of the dorsal spines                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                 and consequently  they  get closer together at their leading edge,
                                             the muscle spans a lesser distance and via this attachment gives firmer withers in movement."

Hi Tranduc,
Could you please confirm, that the 2nd. & 3rd.photographs are of the same dog, please.
Hi Ibrahim,
I critiqued the first photo as I saw it. Sorry for the confusion, was just trying to help..



                                              

Hi Sonora, Hi Sitasmom,

I agree, we base critique on what we see, as a matter of fact I see flatness on all area of withers



I think Sitasmom is spot on, if we can watch the dog in move, withers height can be judged best. I agree that from one picture to another a dog angulation and proportions vary slightly, I have to ad I'm not a professional judge, SONORA is.

Ibrahim

Hi Waleed,

Example of high long withers