Adolescent Male - Page 2

Balance is beauty.

For those worried about likes and dislikes, it's nothing more than a popularity system, really.  People probably have no issue with the dog, they just don't like me.  Oh well.

We're going out to gun club again tonight (we go every week), and I'll get some pictures of him from the front for you :)

His front has caught up with his butt in the last month--big change in him, actually.

He's got another year or two to finish filling out--but he is much more balanced than he was and closer to his 12 weeks picture than most of the other shots over the last 12 months.

Christine

The reason for the dislikes being brought up in speculation so much, I will answer why I think it is.

My guess is: Since the dog is obviously a very nice male and your other dogs have not been disliked when you post their updates, that the dislikes are because people feel after begging for free dog to replace your service dog that an injustice has been committed regaurding this dog and they are objecting in a way that is non confrontational. They are letting their feeling be known.  You were not  able to train him, he should be returned to the breeder, as she requested or sold if you cannot buy him and the fair market value given to the breeder. You have what, six gsds now? How many for free, because you beg publically for deals for free gsds? So many of us have seen the, " I cannot afford a service dog, please donate one"  you always publically complained you have no money for doctors or meds on the fb chat, but yet you are collecting gsds? You run around "showing", and talk of breeding program, but yet you beg for more and more dogs. If you cannot afford to buy the gsd you were donated in order to keep him, I feel you should return him. He was donated for a specific request by you and you are not using him for that intended purpose. This dog is too much to be sitting in a yard that is less than 1/4 acre yard in the city with five other dogs and is not being used the way the donation was intended

The only reason I have posted to this is because the poster is known for "I am being attacked please everyone surround me cause I need you to fight this injustice for me"  without telling the whole story dramas. I for one, do not care for either person on the sides of this issue as a person. I do feel the situation is not just or fair to either the dog or the breeder that donated it. I am not a "friend" of the breeder. I just believe the dog is not getting what he needs and that if she is not going to use for the donated reason she needs to step up and do right by breeder that took pity on her and the dog.

GSDNewbie, right on time with misinformation in a matter that doesn't concern her, as usual

after begging for free dog

Where do you get your information?  You do know that I was not offered a "Free" dog until after I told this dog's breeder that I would be going elsewhere for a dog, right?  And you do know that while the dog had no monetary price attached, that I worked for said dog, right?  Services in exchange for an item is not free.

People have NO idea what has actually happened, especially if they only listen to one side of the story.  Regardless, I posted this dog to be critiqued, not to have people spout untruths in a matter they really know absolutely nothing about, since they are not the involved parties.

And that's all there is to it.

Have you or have you not posted online asking for people to give you free gsds or deals that gave you use of free gsds? How many free gsds did this result in? True or false, dog was donated to you for service work only and you could not train him and announced you washed him from your program? These are all by your hand, not my imagination. These dogs supposedly all live with you in the city with less than 1/4 acre and your comments that you cannot be mobile much and along with please of how to control the mud in your yard before you got three more dogs? Photos of wall to wall crates where it is said your dogs spend much of their time... not kennels, but in crates.  Dogs were seized from Dawn for them living in crates and Hessler is accussed of being horrendous because his dogs live in crates, so how is this good and you keep getting more and more dogs and will shuck out money to travel to shows but yet beg for free dogs? You post these things in multiple places and everyone here has seen it o how can you say it is made up? You accepted this dog for free for one task and he is not doing that task and you have received another dog for said task.... pay the price to buy him or send him back to the person that was good enough to give use of him to you. As a service dog handler and owner I am appalled at the image you send out for other service dog people. 

Have you or have you not posted online asking for people to give you free gsds or deals that gave you use of free gsds?
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I have never once asked for a free dog, Yvonne.  And what the heck does it mean to "give use of free GSDs"?  Do you mean handling?  Because I certainly enjoy doing that when I can.

Also, false that the dog was donated.  When you exchange services for something, it is not free, it is not a donation.  It is something that was earned.  He was for service work, and he did wash out.  The wash out rate is extremely high for service dogs.

 Photos of wall to wall crates where it is said your dogs spend much of their time.

"Where it is said"...people saying things doesn't make it true.  Having crates is not a crime.  And yup, I have mobility issues.  My dogs still get exercised.  That's the bonus of living just ten minutes away from fairgrounds so I can free run everybody.

Since you enjoy stalking me so much, perhaps you've noticed all the photos of all the places my dogs have gone *GASP*  I don't "shuck out money" for shows, either.  I can count on one hand the number of shows I've been to this year.


This doesn't concern you at all, Yvonne, though I can see why you think it does, since being a busy body is obviously your favorite past time :)

You also really need to get off the free thing, since he wasn't free ^_^

That said, that's all I'm going to say about it.  If anybody wants to know what's going on, they can PM me.

Yes, this dog was free.  DONATED  for $0.00 FOR SERVICE WORK.   I Had a buyer for this PICK PUPPY IN THE LITTER FOR SERVICE WORK and this person is/was fully aware of the price for my working puppies.  In fact I even returned her deposit because she was begging for help with a broken down van and no funds to pay for it.  Donated a $2000 dog for service work, no fee charged for the pup - It is all written in a contract that included return of the dog to the breeder if for any reason he needed to be placed or sold.  Contract signed by the person the dog was donated (for service work) to.  Contract broken the instant she washed the dog out for service work, refused to return him at request from the breeder, and attempted to place and sell him. 

The "working off the pup" deal involved showing one of my V rated titled showline females in AKC shows for a Championship.  She took her to two shows, which I paid for (entry fees and other expenses).  I gave her bags of dog food, heartworm and flea meds, and other.  Then I repossessed my dog after I got smart about the sub-standard care, handling and the way the dogs were being housed (in crates).  So the "working off the pup" didn't happen - not by far.

Lawsuit has been filed for return of this pup or payment for him.

Always two or more sides to every story.   Facts are most important to know.

 

I see Dawulf, Hexe, Ziegenfarm, BlackThorn, Ruger1 and Hundmutter covered it all, the reason I was late to comment is I didn't realize Xeph was looking for a critique till she said so in her last post, lol. I like him too, actually there isn't anything to hate about him, anyway I learned to critique based on standard and not my own personal preferences, my take on him is as follows and I didn't look back to see what I said about him earlier, if I did, so I do not be affected by that:

A sable male GSD, dry, large size and medium strong, good proportions, front leg to height at withers, and body length to height (at upper correct limit), light colored, a strong male head of good planes, good proportions, good earset, but stop isn't very well defined. Good strong neck,  Good withers but could use more muscle on them, good strong back, slightly long loin, good croup but still can be of better length (croup angle is good though the curvature deceives the eye). Good hind angulation, in the hind I do not see perfect proportions in the bones, upper thigh is somewhat long. Good underline, good forechest development but still can use more of it, could use more front upper arm length, good shoulder lay back. Correct clean front, pasterns slightly steep, very good feet. Everything about him tells you he is a male.

Ibrahim
 

Use of a dog, as in Use of a donated dog for service work not your attempts at paid or volunteered ring handling where you are obviously able to be mobile and run without issues. I am not getting into the issues of your legalities with the breeder, that will be resolved by her. I posted to this as I said, because this is why the thread on a lovely dog is being disliked. I am sure, I am not the only one that remembers here on this forum you posted over a year ago asking, yes ASKING for a donated dog. I am sorry it has escaped your memory, but I am sure it did not in others' minds. If I truly were a stalker and in the need to feel I had to prove any of these to others, I would feel the need to go look it up and link it. I do not feel that need, I am busy. I do not lounge on here daily and do not read all the forums any more. I just did a BH and moved into my new home and am setting up new studio space....rain storms happen to have curtailed my activities most of this week of my outdoor time and I had time to read this and respond. You have once said that very few dogs are in your heart and that you really do not attach to dogs, you do not have many good things to say about your relationship with this male online, and that Strauss was pretty much the only one you loved, that you just enjoy showing. You have sold other dogs, or offered them for sale. I just only see the only reason you refuse to do right by this dog that is sitting there doing nothing as being petty because you now have sour grapes with the breeder when you had a disagreement and you know she wants him back. You and she need to come to a deal with this dog and for his best intrest if you cannot handle him or do not have time and space.  Please, I am asking you forget how you feel about the people involved and really do what is best for him. Hs is a lovely and athletic looking dog, and I bet he sure could have some fun in some venue of training.