IPO vs "Real Dog" - Page 10

Can't believe I took so long to read this thread :-)

I guess the "real" dog is as "real" as the owner wants it to be.

Margaret N-J

Lol, I guess you think people were very stupid back then. I wonder how they managed to create magnificent breeds without titles or the aid of internet.

Maybe, you all shoot go talk to some experienced old guy's instead of relying on Google experts.

Unless your adamant opinion is that we did not know shit back then in that case carry on reinventing the wheel.

Allan, "amen" to that post !

Most things change and evolve over time. Training techniques have improved and evolved over time. Once upon a time in schutzhund the dog just needed to complete the exercises. Now the judge looks at the dogs outward character and willingness to work and be with its handler. Precision and speed required different training techniques along with a dog that is more prey driven. Once upon a time police k9 handlers belonged to schutzhund clubs and trained with civilians for the joy of learning how to train a dog. Economics and the sport of schutzhund has breeder producing dogs geared for the sport not K9 work. In another thread a very knowledgeable member commented, out of older working litters a couple of dogs would go to police k9, couple to scent work, a couple to seeing eye, sport and family. Now its family or sport. But real dogs in novice hands is a problem. Many of these dogs wind up being euthanized because the work was never put into them.

Kyle, Exactly!

In another thread a very knowledgeable member commented, out of older working litters a couple of dogs would go to police k9, couple to scent work, a couple to seeing eye, sport and family. Now its family or sport.
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Really? I know plenty of breeders, within 5 hours radius where it's still like this. Where puppies still go to LE, become Service Dogs, go into sport, SAR or active families.

True you have your Sport Breeders but you still have plenty of smaller Hobby breeders who produce fantastic dogs. Only thing is these breeders don't frequent the forum. Also, plenty of big name competitors and breeders produce many many police dogs or are k9 handlers themselves.
There are still plenty of Cops in the sport, high level competition handlers as a matter of fact.

In that regard the sport hasn't changed much at all.

As for those breeders who choose active families over competition, I know a few of those too, and the reason for that is because to sports people, the dogs are disposable. Dog is a latebloomer? Ain't got no time for that... if the dog isn't showing off an IPO 3 Routine at 8 months of age it's a shit dog...

 

As a matter of fact, my C litter has two Service Dog Prospects, one puppy went into French Ring, another one to a police officer, one is in a scent detection home, another one into a sport home and the rest are active family dogs. Not a bad cut if you ask me. 

My D litter has already a puppy reserved for Law Enforcement and 3 requests for actual Service Dogs and Detection Dogs. I'm not a competitor and don't really advertise my dogs at all. I don't have to.