This is a placeholder text
Group text
by VKGSDs on 08 June 2012 - 15:06
Does the history matter all that much? I don't know. I don't think my opinions on the interaction change based on the history of the dogs. I'm not sure that knowing about previous socialization is all that important. I have seen many dogs that owners socialize from 7 weeks on that grow up to be dog reactive or dog aggressive and just don't care for other dogs and I have seen dogs that have been kennel-bound for at least one year with no socialization of any kind that are very social with dogs and people. Just in general I think it's important to take things for what they are and not let past history influence how we think a dog acts or how he should act.
by Sunsilver on 08 June 2012 - 16:06
I agree, VKGSDs, a lot depends on the dog's nature. That's why some puppymill dogs make great pets, while others are too fearful to ever adjust to life in the outside world.
I mainly just wanted to set the facts straight, as the previous posted had them muddled.
BTW, as I think I mentioned before, this dog's brother does EXACTLY the same thing when playing! So, genetics do play a role in this.
Who would have thought?
I mainly just wanted to set the facts straight, as the previous posted had them muddled.
BTW, as I think I mentioned before, this dog's brother does EXACTLY the same thing when playing! So, genetics do play a role in this.
Who would have thought?
by Abby Normal on 08 June 2012 - 17:06
Sunsilver
Sorry, I did get that whole situation completely mixed up. I shouldn't look at something late at night and then comment a day later without looking again! my memory is not that good LOL.
My take on his behaviour is still the same. Laddish, loutish behaviour that's gone unchecked, or was never allowed to develop properly as a pup if he was just stuck away in a backyard somewhere, in basically a playful nice dog, who needs guidance. I see no aggression or significant behavioural issues.
I see absolutely no reason why this dog shouldn't make a fabulous replacement service dog. The training required for that alone should tire him out mentally! I wish them both well, and hope they will make a wonderful partnership.
We have an unsocialised 11 month GSD just come into rescue who has been in a backyard from a pup and the last time she was taken out for a walk was 4 months ago! Her training is aimed exactly as though she were a 10 week old puppy - right back to the beginning, with correct socialisation being an imperative!
Just out of curiosity, as although I have read about the history of the creation of the Shiloh, I have no experience of them, are they noticeably different in character to the GSD?
Sorry, I did get that whole situation completely mixed up. I shouldn't look at something late at night and then comment a day later without looking again! my memory is not that good LOL.
My take on his behaviour is still the same. Laddish, loutish behaviour that's gone unchecked, or was never allowed to develop properly as a pup if he was just stuck away in a backyard somewhere, in basically a playful nice dog, who needs guidance. I see no aggression or significant behavioural issues.
I see absolutely no reason why this dog shouldn't make a fabulous replacement service dog. The training required for that alone should tire him out mentally! I wish them both well, and hope they will make a wonderful partnership.
We have an unsocialised 11 month GSD just come into rescue who has been in a backyard from a pup and the last time she was taken out for a walk was 4 months ago! Her training is aimed exactly as though she were a 10 week old puppy - right back to the beginning, with correct socialisation being an imperative!
Just out of curiosity, as although I have read about the history of the creation of the Shiloh, I have no experience of them, are they noticeably different in character to the GSD?
by Sunsilver on 08 June 2012 - 22:06
Yes, they are. The breed founder, Tina Barber wanted to create the ultimate family dog that was safe with small children and the elderly, so she toned down the drive and aggression. As you can see from this video, though, they are NOT couch potatoes, as some people claim.
They tend to be extremely smart, and make excellent service dogs with the right training. They are also larger than the GSD, with many of the males being 30" or more.
The ISSR keeps an extensive genetic database, and in order to have your dog registered you MUSt have the hips done, and fill out an extensive report on the dog's conformation, temperament, etc. The database has helped to greatly decrease the occurrence of hip dyspasia and other genetic problems. All breedings require prior approval from the breed warden, Lisa Barber, the breed founder's daughter. Tina passed away just over a year ago from cancer.
They tend to be extremely smart, and make excellent service dogs with the right training. They are also larger than the GSD, with many of the males being 30" or more.
The ISSR keeps an extensive genetic database, and in order to have your dog registered you MUSt have the hips done, and fill out an extensive report on the dog's conformation, temperament, etc. The database has helped to greatly decrease the occurrence of hip dyspasia and other genetic problems. All breedings require prior approval from the breed warden, Lisa Barber, the breed founder's daughter. Tina passed away just over a year ago from cancer.
by Abby Normal on 08 June 2012 - 23:06
Thanks Sunsilver for the insights and background.
Contact information Disclaimer Privacy Statement Copyright Information Terms of Service Cookie policy ↑ Back to top
