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by bigrockk9 on 10 June 2015 - 01:06

Does anyone know of any dogs with both the sire and the dam both being WUSV competeitors ?

Do you know of any in the USA in recent years ?

I know of a lot of great dogs out there and have not come across this and it got me to wondering .

Not looking for opinions or good dog, bad dog good idea,bad idea . 

Just has this been done and who are the dogs .

 Thanks 


bubbabooboo

by bubbabooboo on 10 June 2015 - 14:06

Finding a female at the WUSV is the problem isn't it??  There was a GSD Trainer ( sometimes also a breeder) who represented Canada on their WUSV team who had a female that went to the WUSV two or three times and he bred her .. not sure which sires he used??  Since very few females ever get to go to the WUSV because of the gender bias of the judges there are few possibilities.


Koots

by Koots on 10 June 2015 - 16:06

http://www.germanshepherddogs.ca/

Kiebitzende:
They had at least one female at the WUSV Universalsieger's in Italy this past weekend.

by gsdstudent on 10 June 2015 - 17:06

in 2013 the first three places at the BSP were female GSD handled by ladies. These three teams were in Phila for the WUSV world championships. I am certain that when the owners or handlers decide to breed these GSDs they will look at many criteria for the prospective sire. The male going to a big event like the WUSV or BSP is good for sales, but not as important as other virtues. The contribution to the blood lines of the mother is the point I believe most looked at. Why more males at these events than females? The devotion of the trainer to top sport makes the selection lean towards a male over the female GSD.  


by duke1965 on 10 June 2015 - 17:06


by bebo on 10 June 2015 - 19:06

only bubba "backyard breeder" boohoohoo can spew such utter misinformation without blinking an eye and, of course, never, ever having trained or titled a dog in ipo, mondio, or ring. fact is:
wusv 2014:  eika #13, emi #15, batista #16;  total 112 males, 19 females
bsp 2014: eika, bastista, moana inthe top 5; total 87 males, 37 females

wusv 2013: furia #7, lio #14, vaja #25, usha #27; total 82 males, 26 females
bsp 2013 vaja quiche, mira top 3; total 86 males, 33 females

wusv 2012: geisha, #3, onja #5, onta #9, agila #10; total 115 males, 30 females
bsp 2012: vaja, moana, caro, molly in the top 10.  total 90 males, 26 females

to the OP question, bolle x bastista comes to mind.

 


Jenni78

by Jenni78 on 10 June 2015 - 22:06

"Gender bias of judges"???????? Really??!

You don't think it has to do with the logistics of training females and choice of competitors? 


by gsdstudent on 11 June 2015 - 13:06

Thank you Bebo for the stats. I beleive the percentage of females at these 2 events is larger than ever.  It is a sacrifice to have a top female, and not breed her . When you look at the schedual to make a world team you might not breed for over a year or more.  The German team must do a club trial to go to their regional event, do well at regional level to go to the BSP, and do great at the BSP to go to the WUSV.  I have witnessed twice in my own circle of training friends when a top female's first breeding was delayed so the handler could keep them in training/trialing mode for top sport. Both of these fine bred dogs had trouble getting pregnant at the age of 5 years. 


mfh27

by mfh27 on 11 June 2015 - 14:06

Both of the sire and dam of my girl, Jayden vom Tollhaus, competed in the BSP. Her mom, Graska was BHOT.


by Gustav on 11 June 2015 - 19:06

So much misinformation posted by experts....smh!






 


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