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by Wise Guy on 01 July 2010 - 19:07

You don't need papers from him. If you have her foreign papers you can fill out the AKC foreign dog form (download from website) and do it yourself. The form has instructions on what you will need. You might need a document that records a legal transfer of ownership but the AKC can help you with that if this is the case. They have contacts all over. When you get an imported dog and you get the foreign regs, it's pretty much up to you to do the rest. The importer will not do it unless he has at one point legally owned the dog and is transfering ownership to you. So if AKC reg already exists for this dog, then sometimes the AKC can help move things along but they cannot legally force a former owner to transfer registration. 

Contact the AKC. They have a 1-800 and more info on their website (www.akc.org). Check it out and see how far you get.  

Good luck!

GSDtravels

by GSDtravels on 01 July 2010 - 19:07

No, not at all.  No comment because frist you say you bred her and want to get as much money as possible for the litter.  Then you say it was an oops litter and don't want criticism.  I'm not going to criticize here, I'll give you some advice.

If this was an oops litter and the dam is only a year old, she has not had the proper tests done to determine if she is breed-worthy.  If I were you, I'd sell the pups for the lower price and be done with it.  You can't expect to get top dollar for a litter from unproven/untested stock

by Suzanne84 on 01 July 2010 - 19:07

I don't have the foreign papers to register her AKC even. All I have is her passport. I bred her to my dual purpose bomb dog who is proven stock. She also is in training and imprinted on narcotics and doing protection work. I was planning on breeding her and him, and thats why I imported a female. Had she not worked out I would of sold her already. She was just bred before I had planned. The breeding isn't an issue here. Either way, I should be able to obtain papers for a dog I bought for 2500$...so the puppies aside..how can i receive the papers?

by Schaferhunden on 01 July 2010 - 19:07

how can i receive the papers???? You can not and after one year you will never see the papers

cage

by cage on 01 July 2010 - 20:07

Suzanne,
I may help you to receive the papers for your female if she is from Slovakia.I need her full name,tattoo number and your full name and address.I guess you don´t know her breeder´s name and name of her parents but it´s not a problem,I will get that info when I call SUCHNO secretary.SUCHNO is Slovak association of the GSD breeders.The whole process goes like this:
I will ask SUCHNO to issue the duplicate of the export pedigree for you.The request must contain this info : name of the dog,tattoo number,sire and dam of the dog,breeder´s name and address and owner´s name and address.The request will be published in Noviny kynologov - GSD magazine, next issue will come out in the end of August.After the request is published SUCHNO waits for a month.If nobody contacts them within a month claiming that the dog is his/hers,SUCHNO issues the duplicate of the pedigree. Then the pedigree is sent to SKJ - branch of FCI,something like AKC and SKJ issues the certificate for foreign countries.All this process takes 4-5 months. The duplicate costs 30 €  and the certificate costs 18 € - altogether 48 €.
Marcela

Judy P

by Judy P on 02 July 2010 - 14:07

Axtually I do not see 4 months as a problem.  I imported a dog early this year - in Feb and her papers arrived a week ago.  They have since been sent ot AKC.  As for her being bred this young, she has no hip or elbow clearances - I certainly would not pay top dollar for a pup.  I agree sell them as unregistered for $500 on spay/neuter contracts.

by VomMarischal on 02 July 2010 - 16:07

An oops litter? And yet " I bred her to my dual purpose bomb dog who is proven stock."

BYB alert. 

nonacona60

by nonacona60 on 02 July 2010 - 20:07

VM, I picked up on that also... Just didn't want to make trouble......I wouldn't say BYB yet..I really don't know this person and wouldnt make any conclusion by what might be a poor choice of words.....Maybe Suzanne84 just didn't word it like she really meant it... I've done that before and got crucified. and gave up trying to correct myself.....   However, once said, there are not many forgiving or understanding folks here that will let it go....

rainforestscouts

by rainforestscouts on 03 July 2010 - 16:07

Jerry has been in the game for a long time, and I doubt he's willing to risk his good name over something like this.  It could be that he is dealing with something that is out of his control. 

How is it that you have in your possession a dual purpose bomb dog?  Are you LEO?  Is he a retired police K9?  I only ask because most PDs would not allow an active K9 to be used for breeding purposes and retired ones are few and far between because most officers keep them. 

Back to your question.  It would not surprise me at all if Jerry deals with Taunya and Josef @ EurosportK9 when importing dogs from Slovakia as they are one of the larger importers.  They too have been in the business for quite some time, and by all accounts are reputable dealers.  If nothing else, they would definitely be able to tell you about the process of receiving papers.  It would also not surprise me if you were to google the name of your pup's sire and dam that you find one or both of them have since been imported into the US.  Many of those dogs are titled over there, bred over there, and then sold over here.  My guess is that Jerry is giving you a little more information than you are giving us, though.  Good luck.

What ever happened to DR?

RFS

Jenni78

by Jenni78 on 03 July 2010 - 16:07

 I just got the AKC applications on my litter I bred LAST YEAR. When dealing with foreign bred import pups, it can take a while. It's a game the AKC likes to play; the longer they take, the more money they can charge you in late fees (per pup, of course.) They want the dam registered first, then you have to wait to send in her DNA, then you have to wait again to send in the stud certificate, then wait again to send in the apps on the pups. That way, they can make sure it's been over 6 mos. since the pups were born and they can tack on late fees to every pup. I got to pay late fees on 9. Whoohoo! Yay for the AKC! God, I hate them.

My poor puppy owners who are working really hard w/their pups just got their ONE YEAR OLD dogs registered a few weeks ago. That, IMO, is ridiculous. Granted, there was a mistake on her Korschien that had to be corrected and I didn't even get the paperwork on her until Dec-Jan if I remember right, but the AKC was the real p.i.t.a.

If the parents are already AKC registered it goes much faster, but transferring ownership adds a lot of time. Combine that w/waiting for the foreign paperwork and AKC reg., and you can easily take the better part of year to get everything in order. 







 


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