Breeding questions... - Page 1

I've been looking over some pedigrees and have come across something that has always baffled me.  HOW CLOSE IS TO CLOSE to breed?  I know that breeding mother/son, father/daughter, brother/sister is not acceptable....plz don't think i'm that crazy.  But this is what I'm seeing....

Example:  Grandfather/granddaughter,  grandmother/grandson,  or does that might have same grandsire/dam.... it's always been a bit confusing to me. 

Opinions????

I would never go closer than a 3-3 breeding i think the SV wont let go any closer than a 3-2 i think

This kind of line breeding works well as long as you are sure of what the bloodline will do when bred in such a way. With the right constellation of dogs it works very well to improve upon certain bloodlines. Hope this helps.

Inbreeding , line breeding, its all in the family.   You do it enough you get trouble.

Diversity is natures way.   It works.

I have an inbred male, he has his faults.  I think he displays traits from ancestors maybe 15 or 20 generations back.

JMO

Linebreeding as has been discussed before can be a good thing if you know what you're doing.  I think Sharon said it best.

Line breeding can only go a finite number of generations before problems arise.  knowing what your doing is important yes.

But I still believe in mating the best from different lines produces the best results.   No common ancestry at least back seven generations in a dog. 

Cloning came up lately, what good would it do to clone a champion?  Life needs to evolve thru time.

agian I say the best thing come from diversity.

Problem is there's too much diversity and people are just breeding abc to def and without no real purpose or goal in mind other than to have pups to sell.  Diversity is good, consistancy is best IMO.  If it's not broke why try to fix it??

Well I guess cloning a champion would do A LOT of good to the person who owns him/her. lol  $$$$$ for one, the other would be that there are now 2 or 3 more fabulous dogs that are considered champions to breed more fabulous champions for years and years to come.  I'd never spend that kind of money but if I have a few million in the bank and didn't know what to do with it I'd clone my boy in a heartbeat just so I can have him with me for a long long time cause I doubt I'll ever find another one like him.

Since you can't get anything out that you don't put in, I don't think line or inbreeding makes much real difference.  If close breeding brings faults to the surface, they were there anyway, in both parents and it was always only going to be a matter of time before they appeared.

Margaret N-J

I was just reading an article in Dog World & they mentioned that it is more
unpredictable to outcross when breeding, cause when you outcross, you
are introducing probably about 4 to 5 new faults, or say defects that are
hidden within the different lines, that probably don't show up right away to
begin with.

They say when you linebreed, mind you healthy lines, with good temperaments
& working abilities, that, the lines will pass on things you already have seen
among those dogs you know, and the faults won't extend into the unknown, that
they will be things you have already noticed within that certain line.

Does that make any sense,

and having said all that, did I mention that I'm a skimmer.... (Probably didn't read top to bottom).............

mirasmom-  That makes much sense to me.  I always looked at it that way too.  If you know your lines and they are producing well then why outcross??  That's like trying to fix something that isn't broken. lol  Nothing wrong with wanting to build off of what is already proving to be working.