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Silbersee

by Silbersee on 18 December 2004 - 16:12

Good morning dear board members, for due reasons (aus gegebenem Anlass), I would like to address the above topic. I came upon the SV Breeding Regulations, Version 1999. So, if there are any changes, Daniela, please advise. You seem to have access to that. Here are my translations and/or rough interpretations (I don't have time right now to get into details, have to drive my daughter to tutor in a bit) 4.2.1 Minimum Age of Breeding Animals Males have to be 2 years old (If Male turns 2 years old on December 31, earliest breeding can be done January 1) Females have to to finish 20th month for first breeding, not whelping (If female tunrs two years old on December 31, earliest breeding could have occured on September 01 previously) - please keep in mind that a-stamp is granted at 12 months of age. 4.2.2 Frequency of Use for Breedig Males 60 fo females within Germany, 30 for freign females... (There is a lot more info on how to spread it out through the calendar months, on repeat breedings etc.) If somebody wishes to have more information on that, we can touch that subject again. Females Healthy females can be used for breeding twice (2 times) within a timeframe of 12 months (as long as the regulations stated under paragraph 4.2.4 ar not involved) 4.2.3 Stud act It touches the subject of stud service, if females stays empty etc. .... 4.2.4 Litter Size It is not permitted to leave more than 8 puppies in a litter. Additional puppies have to be raised by a surrogate mother. For this purpose, every Regional Group of the organization (SV)has to have a Warden for Surrogates. If the breeding female is left with more than 8 puppies in her litter, the earliest time she can be bred again is 6 months after whelping date. Again, this is a truly rough translation, which I have done spontaneously. There is no upper age limit for breeding purposes in these regulations. Chris

Silbersee

by Silbersee on 18 December 2004 - 16:12

One correction: My math was off. Before I get crucified: 4.2.1 If females turns 2 years old on December 31,earliest breeding could have occured on October 01 previously. My apologies, Chris

by ALPHAPUP on 18 December 2004 - 17:12

hello -- sory for the post here site master but i don't know how to post new topic -- it has come into our dog circles here that in germany there is no longer Schutzhund !! GSD must be titled IPO or some other designation !! i believe this is true from my sources -- i know there has been a lot of legal concearns in germany in the USA about canines in the general public , bad incidents etc.. -- will anyone confirm this for us .. -- Also -- philosophically .. ?? to disregard the term shutzhund - protection dog - first it has so much common place , so widespread ,and the value of it historicall in the GSD world .seems quite foolish.

by Saoa on 18 December 2004 - 21:12

ALPHA PUP, click on message board on the left hand side of the screen first, then click on POST NEW MESSAGE. That's all to make a new subject ok. ITS a VPG title instead of IPO or Schutzhund . Anyone know what it stands for? cause i don't...

by Alexis on 18 December 2004 - 21:12

Saoa, VPG stands for Vielseitigkeitsprufung fur Gebrauchshunde which translates into Versatility test for working dogs.

by Arko on 18 December 2004 - 23:12

Hello Silbersee: Is it possible to know more regarding points: 4.2.2 Frequency of Use for Breedig Males 60 fo females within Germany, 30 for freign females... (There is a lot more info on how to spread it out through the calendar months, on repeat breedings etc.) and 4.2.3 Stud act It touches the subject of stud service, if females stays empty etc. .... Thanks.

by ALPHAPUP on 19 December 2004 - 00:12

Hmmmmmm..-- am i to understand this concept correctly .. a working dog gets a title specifying that it is Versatile -- yet it hasn't proved it's ability to work .. that's interesting. becuase a dog can work yet not be versatile at all -- case in point : i have seen countless Sch 3 dogs no more capable of protecting you than a three year old -- without the sleeve or a training field [ as opposed to the street ] they don't have even a clue ... all my dogs if trained in protection work , not meaning personal protection , WILL Do Protection anywhere, anypalce and at anytime . So compared to Shc 3 what exactly is meant by the defintion , what is the puprpose of the VPG ?? gee .. i haven't sch 3 my dogs a;; yet .. but being so verstile i think they are VPG already.. just being satirical -- can someone truthfully explain the neede --still seems rediculous to me

Silbersee

by Silbersee on 19 December 2004 - 01:12

Hi Arko, of course, I can give you a rough translation. Just keep in mind these regulations are from 1999. There might have been some changes, but I am hoping Daniela can check up on that. 4.2.2 Frequency of Use for Breeding Males: Males, who meet the stipulations for breeding, are allowed to breed domestic females up to 60 times a year and foreign females up to 30 times a year. These breedings are to be spread out to 50% for the first half year and 50% for the second half year. Within the respective half year, these breedings should also be as evenly divided as possible. It is not permitted to switch breedings between domestic and foreign females. (Remark: That basically means if the male already did his 30 matings for foreign females, but only 50 for domestic ones, he is not allowed to breed any more foreign females). Too frequent breedings are to be avoided due to the constitution and fertility of the male. Breedings of a male with one and the same female within 28 days will be counted as one (Remark: They probably have that stipulation for the purpose of doing two or more breedings during the female's ovulation time - even if she has a so-called "split heat"). When a male turns two years old within the calendar year, he is only to be used proportionately for both, domestic and foreign females, starting from the day he turns two years old. (Remark: If he turns two years old on July 01, he can breed 30 domestic and 15 foreign females in that year).... The rest of this paragraph only covers violations, for example how much the SV charges the stud dog owner for the first, second, third violation, and so on - high fines and breeding bans, to disciplinary actions to exclusion from the SV. 4.2.3 Stud act The choice of stud male is up to the breeder, just like it is up to the stud dog owner to permit or exclude particular females (Remark: Meaning the SV does not get involved in the choice of breeding partners at all). The correctly performed mating will be confirmed with signature on the stud certificate by the male owner. He also has to notify the SV Breed Book Office within 7 days in writing about the mating. The stud dog owner has fulfilled his obligation after the performed breeding and is then to be paid the amount agreed-upon. If the female stays empty, the stud dog owner has to grant a repeat breeding at no expense. In that case, it is the obligation of the female owner to immediately notify the stud dog owner. If the male is no longer available (i.e. death or change of ownership) half of the stud fee has to be refunded. Stud dog owners are obligated to refund the full stud fee for females (which stayed empty) if the stud dog is banned for a certain time or permanently. Female owners are obligated to inform their respective breed wardens about the mating and the resulting litter. Chris

Silbersee

by Silbersee on 19 December 2004 - 01:12

Alphapup, please start your own post,so you don't confuse anybody. It is really not that difficult. Login under your user name, click on messageboard, and then click on "Post new Message" on the upper middle (just a tad to the right). If you have trouble getting on the Messageboard, you can take a shortcut and click on any of the newer messages posted, and then click on "Post new Message". Please try it. Thanks. Chris

by patrishap on 19 December 2004 - 02:12

Hi Chris, I can vaguely guess but, what is given reason for differentiation between German and foreign bitches. Is there a definition for 'foreign'? Cheers





 


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