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by Wolfinbok on 30 April 2010 - 15:04
Very good bite, a full bite goes back to the molars, any thing
passed the back molars is icing on the cake. But this french trainer does not
have a cigarette sticking out of his mouth?
I heard that there was a malinois that bit so hard, that this decoy had to get reinforced
pants made for him, because the commercial bite suit were no good. Do you know
which dog it was with this very hard bite?
by Wolfinbok on 30 April 2010 - 16:04
Your dog looks a little like Vincent's dog Floek.
by malndobe on 30 April 2010 - 16:04
Since you've been on Philippe's website, the dog you are talking about is probably this one:
"Mac" CdH. Philippe beefed up a pair of heavy pants with extra padding and covers to work him, he still compares other dogs to Mac when he talks about their grips. He and Christophe used to argue about who had to work Mac for me LOL Christophe usually lost.
This is his son Ares
by TJL852 on 30 April 2010 - 22:04
by Wolfinbok on 30 April 2010 - 23:04
You know when you have taken a very hard bite like Chris,
because your leg is still trembling an hour later. This dog puts an end
to people who say Ring dogs can't bite. Very good, I have a female malinois I
would love to breed to this dog.
by Wolfinbok on 30 April 2010 - 23:04
I think Phillpe, the french man in the picture is both NVBK and FR Ring. Any of
these people have had training in IPO, and Ring as well. So jump right in the water
is warm.
by Wolfinbok on 02 May 2010 - 16:05
by Wolfinbok on 02 May 2010 - 16:05
by Wolfinbok on 03 May 2010 - 19:05
do the NVBK. The french like something that they can move around
in and look sexy. I like both concepts. But the reality is you have to
chose one or the other.
by malndobe on 03 May 2010 - 20:05
The suit styles make sense though, looking at the sports. The Dutch and NVBK don't try to avoid the bite, but take it and then allow the dog to dig in. They need the protection and they don't need the flexibility. The French try to avoid the bite, and once the dog is on the bite, are still trying to avoid the bite, keep the dog from rebiting, etc. They will sacrifice some protection to get the flexibility that translates into speed. Which is why many people think FR dogs have crappy bites, because in trial work the decoy is never allowing the dog the opportunity to regrip, which KNPV, BR, Sch, etc do.
I see many dogs in FR who have what I call a "bite and endure" style of biting. They've been taught to just get what they can, and hold on tight. Attempt to counter on a fast decoy and instead of getting a fuller bite, the dog might loose the bite completely. Doesn't tell you much about their genetic biting style though.
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