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by K-9 Helser on 17 June 2006 - 00:06

BYE BYE I WILL NOT POST TO TRASH ANY LONGER ! Yours in sport and breed ! Timothy Helser Amy Helser Austin Helser SPD K-9 Training Center Zwinger Von Der Helser ( An USA Registered Kennel ) www.spd-k9.com spdk9@woh.rr.com 937-833-5448 937-572-5067

grimmdog

by grimmdog on 17 June 2006 - 00:06

So we'll never get the names of the dogs your world famous dog training family brought over from Germany to start the war dog program and you won the Worlds and Nationals with and got all those Gold Medals and Sch3 club and Master Trainer credentials? Darn it. See folks, when bad people do bad things for our breed, our sport, our organization, and the way the public views us, we can collectively use that information to expose what a fraud they are, police ourselves, and protect our future.....

by LaPorte on 17 June 2006 - 00:06

Does T Floyd shake in his shoes? Ever? I wonder if he would like your name dropping and saying that a dog that failed a BH is the hardest dog that he has ever seen? Remember, T Floyd works and handles TOP dogs that place high (or win) all the time at BIG competitions. Also, this year's AWDF championship offered BH, TR 1-2-3, etc, as part of a DIFFERENT trial held in conjunction with the AWDF. Same location, dates, etc but not all a championship. I don't think they offered a championship BH last year either. I think it's a way that more people can get involved in competing and have a chance to see the 'big' dogs and competitors do their thing. I like that, by the way. The AWDF is a very user friendly event. All that being said, attempting a BH there doesn't cut it as competing at a national event.

by MikeRussell on 17 June 2006 - 02:06

The ONLY time I have witnessed T shaking was when his daughter was competing at the GSD SchH3 Championships...and that was just out of nervousness from wanting her to do well! I'm also sure that he would not appreciate a person who has been outed as a fraud and liar to be dropping his name as any sort of claim to the quality of said fraud/liars dogs. A failed Bh at ANY event is not proof of anything. I would think a "Master Trainer" could take a dog that had some training and tune it for a Bh in a short time. As for everything else, I'm in agreement with Grimmdog...I don't think anything else needs to be said.

Mystere

by Mystere on 17 June 2006 - 03:06

Competed at the 2005 AWDF IPO3 Championship IN TN FOR A BH with Lukin Von Der Helser a Malinois that is a FORMER Sheriff K-9 from WV ( HOT ) This was the last time I titled a dog . I am Competing dogs all year long this year Wait to see in online or in schutzhund USA . Yours in sport ??????? A Bh at a AWDF CHAMPIONSHIP? Here is the link to the event results. I do NOT see your name!! http://www.awdf.net/2005awdfchampscores.pdf

by Rottie on 17 June 2006 - 04:06

Look at volume 30, #4, July - August Schutzhund USA, page 25. All results are posted in the magazine, they don't post the BH, OB, or AD results on the website. This was his last attempt at a national event, but the dog failed because of gunfire outside the trial grounds. Lukin was a real police dog that Tim trained as a pup and then got back due to handler hardness as an adult. He only had the dog back for three weeks before the trial.

by K-9 Helser on 17 June 2006 - 05:06

Nate Harves ( grimmdog ) Do you remember this e-mail that I sent you ? I will make good on what I say if this harassment does not stop ASAP .SO GO ON AND WRITE SOME MORE UNTRUTHS ABOUT ME AND I WILL SEE YOU IN A COURT OF LAW ! I would appreciate you not slandering me, my dogs nor my facility. .If you proceed to slander Please be advised that any further slander from you will constitute as slander and harassment, and such conduct will be dealt with accordingly. Be further advised, that all appropriate legal resource will be taken against you to the fullest extent of the applicable laws in your respective jurisdiction should you continue to slander or defame me personally or my business, SPD K-9 Training Center Of Ohio Von Der Helser Kennels www.spd-k9.com or my Dogs . Timothy Helser Amy Helser Austin Helser SPD K-9 Training Center Zwinger Von Der Helser ( An USA Registered Kennel ) www.spd-k9.com spdk9@woh.rr.com 937-833-5448 937-572-5067 JUST FOR YOUR INFO ! What is ‘libel’? Libel is a written defamation. Generally, radio and television broadcasts and online activities that are defamatory are considered to be libel, What is ‘slander’?Slander is a spoken defamation. What is ‘defamation’? Defamation, sometimes called "defamation of character", is spoken or written words that falsely and negatively reflect on a living person's reputation. If a person or the news media says or writes something about you that is understood to lower your reputation, or that keeps people from associating with you, defamation has occurred. Slander and libel are two forms of defamation. What damages are available for slander or libel? If you have been defamed you may seek both actual damages, to recover the harm that you have suffered, and punitive damages to punish the person who made the remark (and serve as an example to deter others). If the defamation improperly accused you of a crime or reflected on your profession, the Court or jury can assess the damages. For other types of defamation you must prove some actual damage to be able to recover. Are laws regarding defamation applicable to e-mail and other on-line activities? Absolutely! If a person commits libel (false and unprivileged publication or assertion of a fact, which exposes any person to hatred, contempt, ridicule, or which causes him/her to be shunned or avoided, or which has a tendency to injure him/her in his/her trade or occupation) against you through e-mail or other on-line activities, the publisher, and any re-publisher, of the offensive statement can be held accountable for damages. For the defenses against libel,

by MikeRussell on 17 June 2006 - 05:06

Is it really defamation if it's the truth? Slander is spoken, Libel is written...yet you're claiming that Grimmdog is slandering you when it's written? Shouldn't you have said "making libelous statements"? Oh, btw, public records aren't considered defamation, slander, or libel. http://www.clerk.co.montgomery.oh.us/areacourt/pro/search_action.cfm?Party=Helser%2C+Timothy&CaseNumber=&TicketNumber=

by LaPorte on 17 June 2006 - 06:06

Defamation, sometimes called "defamation of character", is spoken or written words that falsely and negatively reflect on a living person's reputation. Note: FALSELY and negatively 2 components, one of which is "falsely" So if a person claims to have done something, and another person points out that they haven't...who is speaking or writing "falsely"? Rather than jumping into legal jargon and threats of lawsuits, why not just give us the links to prove your points? It's be a lot cheaper than suing someone, and certainly would make you look better. I think grimmdog has asked some very good questions. His statements seem far easier to prove than yours do. I don't know either of you, but I am a member of USA and I do NOT appreciate someone boasting about starting a new USA club, and then going on an obscene tirade. That was where it started with me. Now it looks like there is more to the story...I honestly don't care if someone has competed at "The Worlds" or "The Nationals" or not. What I DO care about is that it appears that someone might be making false claims about their skill, experience, resume, etc, - in the name of recruiting more clients. If someone misrepresents himself to that extent, he needs to be exposed.

Brittany

by Brittany on 17 June 2006 - 08:06

Timothy, You said that you have a video of you doing Lukin for a BH.. can you upload it on the net? I'm curious into wondering what exactly did Lukin did during the gunshot? I thought Gunshots were removed from the BH? When I got a BH on Zambi at a club trial No gunshots were done (such ashame that it was removed!) I'm also interested in seeing the protection part as well.





 


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