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by Melissa on 21 May 2006 - 04:05
"DesertRangers, I think that you are referring to "imports". I am focussing on dogs from the US sent to Germany to be BRED, then WHELPED and then the pups shipped to the US and registered as AKC (which interprets "born in the USA"). I see this as FRAUD!!!"
That is where he came up with "fraud". They were wondering why YOU thought it was fraud. Get it?
by Kathy P on 21 May 2006 - 04:05
Thank you Melissa...Get it...is this a Fraud????
by rmgsd on 21 May 2006 - 04:05
a.k.c american show gsd i would say ,one that is bred in u.s.a. and showed in a.k.c. shows,with no temperment
test,no working test with no working standers of any kind,so this is my definition of a american bred gsd,so if you say apples\oranges .they dont compare to a real gsd...because if they can t work then they don t
need to be bred..thats just me.....lol....
by Kathy P on 21 May 2006 - 04:05
rmgsd,
please email me privately but to make a short statement. you must be careful because you have defined the #1 Kennel in USA. Again I request don't shoot the mesenger....Enjoy the prior sieger show videos..Have a great day.
by EduCainine on 21 May 2006 - 08:05
HUH??? Kathy do you have some kind of point here. This thread is...I can't even come up with a word for it!! Are you trying to get into some kind of debate over Am-bred-VS-European bred dogs. Your posts do not make sence at all. I'm sure you have a point here, I just can't figure out what it is.
by D.H. on 21 May 2006 - 08:05
Pups are registered in the country they are born in, providing parents meet breeding requirements/eligibility of that country's kennel club.
by VHDOOSEK9 on 21 May 2006 - 09:05
<<<"VHDOOSEK9,I think that you are missing the whole point...the birth place is the key...">>>
Read my post again thinking only of bloodline. I was speaking purely of Genetics. Sorry if I misunderstood.
I shall sit in the corner for "time out".
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WOW! Calm down, because you disagree, which in a free country you may, it doesn't make me part of a problem??
But since you feel I am part of the problem, I will sit in the corner on "time out" for another 5 minutes.
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Oh No, I wouldn't dare do that because genetically that would be German Bred but if born in USA the registration is AKC.
You right EduCainine this thread is ... getting confusing????
Uwe
by Dog1 on 21 May 2006 - 10:05
EduCanine,
The question and discussion relates to the "Americam Bred" award in the US Sieger Shows.
There is an award at our sieger shows where the highest placing "American Bred" dog is recognized. These are obviously the German dogs and not the American Style dogs since it's the sieger show.
The question appears what constitutes an American Bred dog by definition and what are the eligibility requirements for this award at the Sieger Shows?
Aparrantly there is a concern that dogs are being bred, puppies are being born in other countries and being shipped to the US. These pups are then registered with the AKC and supposedly eligable for the "American Bred" award. This is what the discussion is about. There is no proof as usual, only accusations.
This thread has nothing to do with the American Style German Shepherds or the AKC.
by SGBH on 21 May 2006 - 12:05
Dog1 just jogged my memory. He is right. This thread made no sense to me either. Now, it's clear as a bell. This was debated ad nausium on the green board a few months back. I never figure it out until someone like Dog1 brought the "hidden agenda", to the forefront. Someone was asking the SAME question in reference to who "qualified" for the AWARD, that Dog1 spoke of, without being forth right as to why the question was being asked. Thus none of the opinions/debates/arguments were in the proper "context" and some of the folks participating(including myself) were participating in a thread without truly knowing what they were participating , "in". Now, watch this thread get focused and channeled in it's proper direction. Should be entertaining.
Stephen
by DesertRangers on 21 May 2006 - 13:05
I agree guys that this post is confusing. I have been trying to understand (and help) but still not really sure what her point is. She seems to have an issue and I thought she is now saying that someone in the USA is shipping a bitch to Germany, having her breed and whelping pups, then shipping the pups back to the USA and registering them with the AKC. Her point being the AKC rules say the bitch has to have been mated in the USA for the pups to be elgible for AKC registration. The rules do not say that once the bitch is mated that the pups have to be born in the USA,,,Guess if you mated then shipped her off you could still register the pups AKC.
Kathy- are you saying someone is breaking this rule and still getting pups AKC registered?
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