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by Kathy P on 21 May 2006 - 03:05
If you are registering a GSD born in the USA then that dog is AKC registered but if you are registering a dog of GDS pedigree born in another country then my take is that this becomes a Foreign dog registration. I am not in any position to question the integrity of any FCI recognized registration organization but am simply asking why they are not mutually respected?
by VBK9 on 21 May 2006 - 03:05
AKC as a whole is not respected simply because they require nothing other than registered parents to produce registered puppies. You do not have to do health clearances, temperment tests, nothing. Now, just because a dog is AKC registered does not mean it is of lesser quality. There are plenty of breeders in the US who do OFA, Schutzhund titles, etc. Just because a dog is registered with the SV and imported from Germany does not mean it is a better dog than one who is born and bred in the US. The SV just has much more requirements in order to register a litter.
by Kathy P on 21 May 2006 - 03:05
VHDOOSEK9,
I think that you are missing the whole point...the birth place is the key...
American Bred = AKC registered dog with American lineage bred to another AKC registered dog with American lineage. Regardless of where the pups are born.....
I think that I totally disagree with you, and you may be part of the problem.
I can only picture you telling the SV that there are German Bred pups from SV registered parents but born in Ohio, Minn or even Mexico but they should be SV registered.....
by DesertRangers on 21 May 2006 - 03:05
I looked this up on the AKC website and the mating has to have taken place in the USA or one of it's territories.
You are also allowed to register imported dogs from foreign registeries. They provide a list of these registries by breed and you have to meet the requirements and then you can register the dog with the AKC.
So if you mate your AKC dog in Germany, then the pups could not be AKC registered unless you can have them SV registered and once you bring them to the USA you could then AKC register them.
by Kathy P on 21 May 2006 - 03:05
Exactly!!! That would fall under Foreign Dog Registration....
by DesertRangers on 21 May 2006 - 03:05
Kathy? Sounds like you already knew this? What is the fraud you mentioned earlier?
by animules on 21 May 2006 - 03:05
Kathy, What's the big issue? Why do you consider this as fraud? An AKC registered dog can be bred and born anywhere as long as it meets AKC requirements prior to being registered. We have two dogs SV registered, pink papered, imported from Germany, that are also AKC registered. That is not fraud, that is meeting the AKC requirements. That's also the point I was trying to make with AQHA, it's a breed registry, not a guarantee of where the animal is bred and born.
by DesertRangers on 21 May 2006 - 03:05
The AKC says the "mating" must take place on USA soil but does not say they must be born on USA soil.
by DesertRangers on 21 May 2006 - 03:05
It would be against the AKC rules to ship your AKC female to Germany, breed her and have the pups shipped back to the USA and then register them AKC.
You could ship your AKC female to Germany, if you could get her SV registered , breed her and ship the pups to the USA and then thru the SV get the pups AKC registered.
by Kathy P on 21 May 2006 - 03:05
animules, where did you come up with "fraud"?. Are you a part of something that you are unsure of?
I simply asked for a clear definition of what is American Bred. If your associations don't fit the definiton please don't shoot the messager.
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