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by mentayflor on 06 April 2014 - 11:04

by Sunsilver on 06 April 2014 - 14:04
And they didn't think it was necessary to shoot the dog? [sarcasm]AMAZING!! [/sarcasm]
It just goes to show you how trigger-happy the U.S. police are by comparison!
I heard of an incident in Canada recently (sorry, can't find a link) where a pit bull had already bitten someone and the police managed to get it under control by tazering it, rather than shooting it.

by Hired Dog on 06 April 2014 - 15:04
I am there to do a job, i dont have time for introduction and its the owner responsibility to secure their dog, not mine.
Sunsilver, a dog has already bitten, would you want to take a chance and hit it with tazers when it will probably get killed at the pound later?
This is not about trigger happiness, its about protecting yourself and going home to your family safe, end of.

by Sunsilver on 06 April 2014 - 15:04
HD, i have seen videos of dogs approaching police officers with TAILS WAGGING*, showing NO aggression whatsever, and a couple of seconds later, BANG! They're dead! In one infamous video, it was the family lap dog. The car, containing a family and their children was pulled over because there had been a robbery, and their car resembled the getaway car. The police refused to give them time to secure the dog.
Another incident that sticks in my mind: officer gets out of his car, is approached by a loose, barking dog. He gets back into his car, THEN shoots the dog. The dog's body language was not threatening to attack: he was just warning an intruder away from his turf. The officer COULD have called A.C. He COULD have called the dog's owners to come and secure the dog, which was likely on its own property. Nope, instead, BANG BANG...dead.
Now, you could defend the officer's action, and say he was responding to a serious call, and couldn't wait for someone to secure the dog, because someone's life might have been at risk. True, but I ain't buying it, because I've seen and heard about FAR too many of these incidents in recent years, and it's ALWAYS in the good U. S. of A.
There is a SERIOUS need for education of police officers, so the gun isn't always the first choice. I am FED UP to the back teeth with the U.S. gun culture, so DON'T GET ME STARTED!!
Sure, police officers have every right to go home safe and alive at the end of the day, but this video very clearly shows shooting the dog is NOT always necessary.
(*And yes, I am well aware a wagging tail doesn't ALWAYS mean the dog won't bite! The whole body language needs to be take into account.)

by Hired Dog on 06 April 2014 - 16:04
If this is your personal vendetta against guns, make it so, but to question someone in the position they are in as cops...i dont know.
Again, when it comes to my health and my safety, screw someone's dog whose intentions are not clear, this is not about guns, its about getting home alive at the end of the day.

by mentayflor on 06 April 2014 - 17:04
" its about getting home alive at the end of the day" Hire dog, dont worry just for one dog, The five policemen will get home alive at the end of the day: Violence it is not necessary.

by BroncoK on 06 April 2014 - 19:04
The thing is officers want to go home to their families, and the wives of those officers, want them to come home in one peice as well. There is a lot of negativity going around the internet about police officers/deputies who shoot dogs, and very little is taken into account how any "normal" person feels when they are being confronted with a strange dog whom we have no idea how it is going to react to them, not including officers who have those same feelings.
The majority of the public does not study dog behavior for hours and understand all the little nuances that goes into communicating with an animal. Hell, even regular dog people who own family pets have no idea what their dog is saying with their tail, ears, stance, eyes, hair etc. However, it is their responsiblity to know! What makes their dog tick, bite, growl, and at who etc. Quite frankly, most people don't care, and some of them get into these situations. Like the guy with the rottwieler for instance. He didn't care to role the window up of his vehicle to ensure his dogs saftey OR the officers, or even the people around him's safety. I'm sure he wanted to see what his dog would do in the situation he was in and was proud it was defending him until it got shot.
Or the guy in Idaho who shot the dog that was "wagging" it's tail when it approached the officer, and yet the neighbors of this guys dog had called to complain mutlitple times for being at large and even aggresive at times. Why did this guy not get the clue that his dogs were a neusence and find a better way to keep them contained? Now it's the officers fault because the owner is an irresoponsible pet owner? Yes, there are things officers can do in the stead of using a gun, however, please take into consideration the stress they are under, the adrenal they have racing through their bodies while on shift because of the calls they make/things they see before judging an officer. Dogs can be a scary thing to people who don't understand.

by Sunsilver on 06 April 2014 - 20:04
Okay, I didn't want to do this, but here's one of the worst examples of the unnecessary shooting of a dog I've ever come across:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/819618/posts
The video is available, if you want to search it out. Family members repeatedly asked the officers to NOT let their dogs out of the car, as they had been pulled over on the Interstate, but their requests were ignored. I have also read in another article, that if dogs are involved in a case like this, the police are to call Animal Control.
Needless to say, this is not always done.
To summarize, the police screwed up in three different ways:
!) The father had left his wallet on top of the car when they stopped for gas. As he drove down the highway, other motorists called in to report this, and said there was money blowing out of it.
2) Somehow police interpreted this to mean there had been a carjacking. So, when they pulled the family over, they treated them as if they were guilty of a major crime. They had them come out of the car with their hand over their heads, then forced them to kneel on the roadside, and handcuffed them. (Personal note: I cannot kneel, due to arthritis in my right knee. My mother also cannot kneel, as she has had 2 knee replacements. How would the cops have responded to THAT?? )
3) Despite the family's concern about their dogs (apparently there were 2 in the car) the police then opened the car doors, and left them open, allowing one of the dogs to escape. Despite the family telling them the dog was NOT a danger, it was shot and killed with a shotgun.
I have to confess I, and probably ever other dog owner, has nightmares about stuff like this happening.

by Hired Dog on 06 April 2014 - 21:04
Are you saying that the officers shot that dog or dogs in cold blood?
Were they then found guilty over it?
People who sleep well at night, secure in their beds need to offer thanks to those who protect them, be it cops, soldiers or mercenaries. ...
Canadians gave up their right to bear arms, is that why you are complaining about guns here?
Lastly, prone on your stomach is the usual position Sunsilver if they think you deserve it enough...better control that way. Oh, i dont have any nightmares about my dogs getting shot, i know how to control them.

by mentayflor on 06 April 2014 - 22:04
Some people hate dogs or are afraid of the dogs. Some policemen who hate them or are afraid of them abuse their power and kill them since they are armed. I have seen some videos where people around screamed because they dindt want policemen kill helpless dogs, but because people were afraid of police couldnt defend the poor dog.
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