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PerdueK9

by PerdueK9 on 29 October 2012 - 16:10

Hello I was wanting an opinion on breeding a very nice stable female with good hips and elbows if a Full Sibling from a younger litter has Elbow Dysplasia. I have contacted the original breeder of the dog in question and was told that this sibling is the only one out of her dogs to come down with this condition. I have been told by two veterinarians and dr keller with the ofa that If my dog has good hips and elbows I should be fine that their is a difference with one sibling and multiple siblings having this condition.

Btw this female was just bred I have been told this is unethical and shouldn't be done. I have researched Elbow and Hip Dysplasia and to my understanding it can happen whether it is in the dogs lines or not. Is having one sibling with this condition truley a gamble or is breeding any GSD WHO IS OFA GOOD OR EXCELLENT and having no proof that those dogs did not have dysplastic litter mates siblings grandfather etc Unethical?

by Rasenhof on 29 October 2012 - 16:10


by Rasenhof on 29 October 2012 - 16:10


by joanro on 29 October 2012 - 17:10

It would seem that the advice you were given already is sound. If no dogs were ever bred that have only one affected sibling, then the breed would become extinct in a short time, or the gene pool would become so narrowed, it might as well be extinct.
Whoever told you that you are being unethical needs to be discounted as uneducated concerning H/E D.

PerdueK9

by PerdueK9 on 29 October 2012 - 17:10

Thank you. for the response I truley Appreciate it

by Dmoyse80 on 29 October 2012 - 21:10

Perhaps you should tell the truth now and not just your version! I called you unethical back when you let your female lock with 3 males and then decided the one with the best pedigree was the Sire, Please do not try and pass your self off to these people as professional. You forgot to mention you dont always tell the truth.

Rik

by Rik on 29 October 2012 - 22:10

Omg Smile

GSDPACK

by GSDPACK on 29 October 2012 - 22:10

Hmmm.. maybe some DNA testing is due here?

by Dmoyse80 on 29 October 2012 - 23:10

I will post the true story as we may be able to get more insite on this 
My mother owns the FULL SIBLING to the female the was bred, at 6 mons old this GSD was diagnosed with elbow dysplasia in both elbows, we have been in contact with the breeder who paid for x-rays and so forth. This breeder has told me she has never spoken with PerdueK9 nor does she know who she is. She was also very clear she did not sell these puppies as breeders. My friend said it was professional courtesy to let Perduek9 know about the situation, as again they are full sisters 1 year apart. Breeder has cancer and has not spoken with any of the other puppy buyers but she only had 2 litters with the Sire & Dam of the 2 females we are speaking of. 

Just a little more then a week or so ago PerdueK9 said she was not breeding the dog as she was not mentally stable and had bitten a friend ( but her story changed and it is now almost bite) as well as the issue with the dysplasia. Now the dog is bred and PerdueK9 is trying to justify why she did it. Personally I would have spayed the said female and moved on to a new line, but Perduek9 choose not to. When I last spoke with Perduek9 is was very direct in telling her how bad the elbows are as well as the fact there are some stability issues with my mothers GSD. Again I was told she had some issues as well. 

My opinion is based on knowing the actions as well as the health of the bred females FULL SIBLING, we are not talking a half. Yes I feel she should not be bred and yes I do feel the actions are unethical but again this is based on more then just this situation. I look at the buyers perspective of having to deal with any type of issues, I truly hope PerdueK9 is honest with her buyers as to the genetics of this particular line. Again these dogs were not purchased from a breeder who does this as a living, this is a lady who had a female and male and allowed them to have 2 litters without knowing any history. She has more then compensated for the elbow dysplasia and is offering to pay for the surgery if the vet decides its the best option, she has paid more in the health bills for this dog then the purchase price. Both the Sire & Dam are spayed. 

I am the one who called PerdueK9 unethical but again it has to do with way more then just this situation. And I will not bring up a bunch of drama on a professional board. 

Any insight would be great 

by HighDesertGSD on 30 October 2012 - 03:10

OFA specifically says that "fair" hip should not be ruled out as long as it has a family tree of normal. It is better to breed a "fair" with long family tree of normal than an "excellent" with poor or unknown background.

In theory, siblings should be a important but in reality the percentage of affected siblings is very difficult to assess.





 


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