Cesar and his wonderful dog training - Page 1

Guess he didn't see that one coming, how could he miss all the signs?  Ego mixed with ignorance is a dangerous combination.......

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ihXq_WwiWM

In case the link doesn't work, you can go to youtube and type in Dog Whisperer: Showdown with Holly (Showdown, really????)

Oh my....
What an awful video... I've never been a fan of Cesar... But this has to be the worst video yet I've seen.. 
Poor dog, showing all the calming signals, he/she could think of.

On another note, what type of training method is that? Is the owner supposed to stand over his dog in dominance? I don't get it at all.

Interesting to me he didn't use something to block the bite like he typically would in the one's I've seen; where he would let the dog release all of that until it became easier to control the dog without actually touching.  I like "some" of his methods with energy/body language where you can make a dog do things without even touching the dog, but he should have known better with this.   His basic principles of "exercise, discipline, and affection" are good ideas for all pet owners to follow in general, but for how he worked with this dog was foolish.  What episode/season was this from, do you know?

Last week I was at the Goodwill store looking through the books and I bet there were 10 of his books there. His methods must not have worked for those folks. Usually good dog books stay with people.

I loved it! Watched it several times. Moron. I loved his kick to the dog. Maybe he should put an e-collar and bandana on it like his dogs. Just wish he would have tried to fondle him again age he had it backed into a corner. He was scared and left. The dog won. And! And! "This is gonna hurt.". Are you serious? Hydrogen peroxide is going to hurt after you just got bit? Really?

Crap! It won't load..just a black screen. The segment aired last Saturday, the 15th. Would like to have seen Milan get bit on tv, instead of all the fuck ups being edited out. He's totally bogus, but has a great gimmick that unsuspecting people buy into.."dog whisperer".bs!

So, I watched the video several times. If it aired recently I will have it on tape to see the "outcome".

What I see in the video is an unsure dominant dog that has gotten away with its behavior way too long. I see a scared family at their wits end, thats having a BABY! I am sure that this agressive behavior is not just showing with food around.

Cesar provoked this girl to see the described agression. He did eactly what he needed to be doing. Screw all the calming signals; if he would have backed away, the dog would have won at a time, when you cant let it win. Then the girl finally layed down, making him think she submitted (and he fell for it). Maybe she has done so before and learnt that this worked for her. Touching her at the muzzle was a big mistake, but showed that the agression goes much deeper than just over food.
The bite was straight forward and not one of a fearful dog. The kick was merely to get her to back up, was more a bump anyways. He again had to move forward into her. And then the "showdown". She had enough space to back way, she was not cornered. She did not move, not one single step in over 6 min. This was pure dominance. Try it on your dog, see how long it takes for it to make two steps backward or readjust its position. 6 min is a long time to not back off, and this with the crew moving around Cesar. She was not shut down either. As she finally turned her head away (and I belief sat down), he made his exit to treat his hand. Was it perfect? By no means! This dog needs work as well as the owners if they want to keep her while a baby is around.

So, everyone who thinks that Cesar is such a fake. How would you fix the situation without ridding of the dog?

I dont necessarily agree that the aggression was not done from fear. And it looks like he was kicking the dog and even hit her in the beginning. I would ask what did she actually learn? Not much from my perspective. I personally would have had the dog on a leash so there was some kind of control that could be used instead of her biting. What did she learn from biting him? IMO only that it worked!

I had a fear biter and its really hard to try and predict what sets them off. I'd be curious what he did end up doing to work with this dog. I dont think he is a fake BUT if he is going to call himself a trainer, then the media should get to see ALL that he does and not just the nice things. People think he is some training God but he is no different than any other trainer. And sometimes worse as in this situation.

Elkoor, I totally disagree with you. That is not a dominant dog. Not at all.

Thats ok, Chaz. We dont have to agree. I see dominant behavior, be it rightful to her nature or not.

Bhaugh....he is not a dog trainer and never will be. He solves behavioral issues.

There is someone who is doing this with horses. It is awesome to watch!