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djc

by djc on 25 July 2012 - 19:07

All of you that really care about your pet's nutrition and feed raw or unprocessed food need to read this link and act on it! The AVMA is voting next week on whether to discourage raw feeding or not. This article is written by a vet who knows what dog nutrition is all about and does not give in to all the hype/crap that the pet food industry feeds them! In fact the pet food industry is what is behind this!!!! Read and get your fingers tying!!! It's very important. Long term repercussions could effect anyone who wants to feed raw. http://healthypets.mercola.com/sites/healthypets/archive/2012/07/25/no-to-raw-feeding.aspx
Debby
PS I really would not like this to end up as a pro/con raw feeding thread. Even those that don't feed raw should support other's right to do so. It can effect (in the future) how inspections and courts perceive how well you are taking care of your dogs. 

Hundmutter

by Hundmutter on 25 July 2012 - 20:07

Presumably if they get away with this in America it won't be long before the Pet Food Manufacturers organisations and
similar start to agitate for a similar ban in the UK.  Like Debby says, I don't feed raw, but I defend the right of people
to do so if they wish to.   Anyone seen any overwhelming figures giving evidence of cases of animals or people
getting sick because of raw foods fed to pets ?

momosgarage

by momosgarage on 25 July 2012 - 20:07

Make note that "Delta Society" is also taking a firm position on this issue.  They are are non-profit therapy dog certification organization.  I'm pretty sure "animal health policies" on a national scale is not part of thier mission.  In fact there should be repercussions to this organization taking a side on the issue.  People don't give them money for this type of activism (well, maybe Purina does).  Note Delta Society will not let dogs fed a raw diet get certified.  I actually looked into to getting my dog certified through Delta Society because the hospital nearest to my home refused to accept a TDi certification.  I'm glad I passed and went TDi instead.  In fact I would say people on this board should start promoting TDi over Delta when ever someone inquires about therapy dog certification.  Delta is overstepping their purpose by taking on this political issue.

Here is Delta's stated mission, which they are bound to follow as a 501c3:

•Educate healthcare and other professionals on how to incorporate animals into goal-directed treatment or visiting animal activities to improve the lives of those they serve.

•Provide 'gold standard' therapy animal curriculum and training and inspire people to volunteer with their pets in their local communities.

•Empower individuals with disabilities to maximize their quality of life by providing service animal related information and resources.

•Advance knowledge about research which reflects how interactions with animals have a positive effect on human lives.

I they want to start taking political positions on "POLICIES ON RAW OR UNDERCOOKED ANIMAL-SOURCE PROTEIN IN CAT AND DOG DIETS" then they need to start giving some money back to the folks they lied to.  Because that is NOT thier mission!





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by jcmeyer on 25 July 2012 - 22:07

I know most people on here are not interested in facts and science. But it has been definitively proven that dogs on a raw diet shed salmonella and other enteric bacteria at a higher rate than those not on a raw diet.  Many of the raw diets are not complete diets nutritionally and the fact that people consider them to be more "natural" is nonsensical.  A lot of research has gone in to the development of commercial dog feeds and there is in fact an American College of Veterinary Nutrition.  I will take the word of researchers and scientists before that of anecdotal and hyped reports in the media or on web sites.

by brynjulf on 25 July 2012 - 22:07

Wow, I thought we lived in a free country.  It would be a sad sad day if I had to feed kibble.  Jcmeyer could you please provide links to your information regarding raw feeding and the shedding of salmonella.  I am always willing to read scientific data.  You are correct alot of money and research has gone into the development of kibble.  And many many dogs have died as a result of tainted kibble.  We lost 4 young dogs to kidney failure due to the amazing (sarcasm) kibble produced in a Diamond factory.  I for one do not want to be forced into feeding factory mass produced product.  I have always said people should have the right to feed what they wish.  For me it is human grade raw food.  Taking away choice is scary.  What next I won't be able to feed the eggs produced in my own back yard to my dogs???? Scary and very slippery slope.

GSDPACK

by GSDPACK on 25 July 2012 - 22:07



Really?
Research results vary depending on who is paying for the research.... butter is bad, margarine is bad, butter is worse, lets hydrogenate everything, oh hold on it is bad, oh lets process veggies like fries to make people eat it while nutritional value is gone with deep frying..... silly. I don't make people go raw, don;t make me go processeed food.

I have seen the way kibble is processed... I rather stick with raw.  I eat my eggs over easy and if I get salmonella, I will starve it, just like I have done that before when I got it from a FREAKING FOOD CHAIN from processed food!!







by jcmeyer on 25 July 2012 - 23:07

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3003575/ 

Here is the data on raw food.   No scientific evidence that it has any benefit over commercial food.   Possibly nutritionally deficient.  Possible increase in zoonotic potential.





TingiesandTails

by TingiesandTails on 26 July 2012 - 00:07

...well this whole thing is an "advisory" anyway ...and what do you think the FDA would recommend other than their own kibble and medicated "food"...
This doesn't affect anyone who truely wants to feed their dogs raw...

by jcmeyer on 26 July 2012 - 00:07

I agree no one has the right to tell you how to feed your dog.  But the Delta Society has the right and the obligation to protect the people coming in contact with their dogs from potential infectious disease.  Especially hospitalized patients and the elderly.

GSDPACK

by GSDPACK on 26 July 2012 - 00:07

5 years and so far every fecal negative. Maybe I am a wonder raw preparer. My friend's dog did however died eating one of those baked bones from a feed store, killed her..... so much for safe diet. 






 


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