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by DENTIST2012 on 10 September 2011 - 13:09

I HAVE SEEN MANY STRAY DOGS RUN OVER BY TRUCKS AND BUSES,, BUT NEVER A CAT DONO WHY....


MY QUESTION IS, A GERMAN SHEPHERD DOG IS SUPPOSED TO BE THE THIRD MOST INTELLIGENT DOG BREED THAT HAS EVEN AN UNIQUE PROBLEM SOLVING ABILITY   (((( NATURALLY, EVEN WITHOUT TRAINING))))


SO COULD THIS GERMAN SHEPHERD DOG, A FULLY GROWN ONE, COULD CROSS A BUSY ROAD WITHOUT GETTING MAULED, OR DOES IT NEED TRAINING FOR THAT?????


PLZ SEND ME UR EXPERIENCES AND UR PREDICTIONS..

AmbiiGSD

by AmbiiGSD on 10 September 2011 - 14:09

I've seen plenty of squished cats, even lost one on the road myself.  Dogs seem to either have road sense or not.  Had a mongrel years ago that had spent most of his life as a latchkey dog, he was amazing on roads would always stop and wait for a gap in the traffic to cross.

Had a pony that got so used to me using pelican crossings to cross busy roads on out sunday beach hack, that she'd wait until she heard the beep from the lights before she'd set off, she just refused to budge until she heard it, even if there was no traffic!

Dogs can be trained to wait at the kerb, but whether they pick up on the traffic has stopped or is clear or just obey your commands well thats down to the individual dog.

P.S you dog should not be crossing a road by itself!!  no matter what!


Pirates Lair

by Pirates Lair on 10 September 2011 - 14:09

I HAVE SEEN MANY STRAY DOGS RUN OVER BY TRUCKS AND BUSES,, BUT NEVER A CAT DONO WHY....



You obviously have no cats to run over



Kim

yellowrose of Texas

by yellowrose of Texas on 15 September 2011 - 18:09

  Because they are HIGH PREY driven and  a DOG DOES NOT REASON

   We reason for our PETS and especially high driven prey or dogs that usually have a definate sense of GOING STRAIGHT to a focal point they zero in on and they react to that drive.

I would never let any one of my shepherds out of my fence line for any reason unless on a trial field without a leash..THE reason:

You cannot remove the INSTINCT to run to or advance to a certain Stimili or lus...that excites a DOG to forget he even has training.. AND if you are not  EXACTLY 2 seconds on a command to  NINE, or PHOOEY or   PLATZ or HEIR>..you may find a  dead dog.

I am sure plenty others can tell stories of how their GSD did get hit or killed.

I have several and one was a truck raced accross the NHRA parking lot when MY son threw a KONG for demo to a group of race enthusiast in ENNIS , TEX< and the parking lot was empty except for maybe 10 vehicles.

OUT of no where an old truck came around a barrier across the parking lot just as YAP was in his return with the KONG headed immediately back to My sons feet.   THE truck hit Yap because he was only 5 ft from the point of entrance and no one could have either sped up YAP nor you cannot platz a dog in the front of a truck..

Every race season we demoed Yap at the races and never had anything like that take place. We were very careful where we demo.  IT IS just like in the trial parking lot , you walk you dogs on leash to and from the cars , truck and trailers.. I have seen near misses of dogs being hit while on a leash because of  PEOPLE fault not dogs fault.

SO any way you look at it...dogs do not reason..,nor talk. IF they did , they would look before they proceed but they don't.
Train one to look before they cross the street..HAS IT been done successfully. Can you train a dog to look both ways and determine how far aways a car  or vehicle is to keep it from getting hit/? I do not know? maybe someone has trained a dog to do this without its owner at hand.?

MOST dogs run over, have an owner no where in site.

YR





GSDguy08

by GSDguy08 on 15 September 2011 - 18:09

Why not cats?  Are we suggesting cats may be smarter? This reminds me of something.... There use to be a cat that stalked my dogs every day as I walked past it on my walks.   It lived over a quarter mile down the road.  Well.....our yard is fenced in, gated as well, I have four Siberian Huskies, three at that time though.  Well one night I was in the house, I let the dogs out of the house into the yard.  The gate was closed at the time......Well, within a matter of a few seconds I heard some loud growling....went to the front of the yard to see what was going on......That same cat that had been stalking my dogs on the walks......apparently got in our yard......and it was dead within a few seconds.  It was HUGE too, I had never seen a cat that tall or big.  Obviously I don't let my dogs just go out and kill cats, I don't take them out in the road and let them attack animals or anything like that.  They're 100% under control on leash, and this was in our yard with a full fence around the yard and it being gated and locked.....Not to mention, they ran around the front of the house and it happened before I could even get up there.  That......was a stupid cat....lol.

A lot of dogs just....don't have car sense.   Some will even chase and bite the tires, I see dogs some mornings running out biting the tires of the school buses.  One is a Golden Retriever, the other is a Pit Bull.  Many dogs around here in the subdivision will go to sleep in the middle of the street. I'm baffled at how they're still alive.  The ones that sleep in the street were farm dogs and don't care about anything it seems. 

My question to the one starting the thread.... Of course this does happen... but why would someone just let their German Shepherd run off leash, with no fence around, where traffic is... We also have to note that with every breed there are the not so smart ones.

Red Sable

by Red Sable on 15 September 2011 - 22:09

I've seen MANY dead cats on the road, coons, possums, squirrels, you name it.  Heck, people even get hit.

This is a goofy question.

Ace952

by Ace952 on 15 September 2011 - 22:09

lol@RS.

Yeah i ran over 2 cats in 1 week.  I felt horrible.

Red Sable

by Red Sable on 15 September 2011 - 22:09

I must have been following you Ace.

I went years, and I mean years without ever killing any animal.  My mom seems to hit Bambi 3 times a year,  so at her supper table one day, I proudly boasted of my -never hit an animal- driving record - and promptly hit a coon shortly afterward (damaging my air conditioning) and then not to long after that, a deer ran into my truck (actually at that time it was company owned) and left a nice dent in my door,( it took off, so I'm not sure if it died later or not,- I hope not.  )

So, now I just shut my mouth.

Ninja181

by Ninja181 on 16 September 2011 - 00:09


Two Moons

by Two Moons on 16 September 2011 - 01:09

Dentist,
Every animal that encounters a road and traffic deal with this differently, some learn faster than others.
Some do not survive the first lesson.
First encounters without previous knowledge is a coin toss.
You can train and socialize your dog for traffic and they will learn.




 Moons.





 


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