How much protein for a puppy? - Page 1

So, I'm curious, how much protein would be ideal for a 20 week old puppy.  My Husky pup is 20 weeks old now, 30 lbs,  and I've always been told Huskies should have more protein than your average dog.  He's been eating TOTW the Sierra formula which has 25%.  Any ideas?  I've been feeding his mom the same kind as well, although I have been mixing in some of the formula that has bison and roasted venison (32% protein) along with the other for her.  Her coat is extremely soft, her weight/muscle is great, stools great, etc.   Anyone know?

To be sure, you can get some urine test strips and test your puppies urine on a regular basis. No protein should be excreted through the urine.
I feed raw and add veggies and some fruit to my pups, however for puppies, I stay with the smaller animals, like chicken, turkey or fish as I had puppies that had a hard time digesting bison or beef. Eggs are also a nice protein option fed once a week.
With dry food I would stick to the puppy variety, but I don't have much experience with dry food.

I have experienced problems I attribute to high protien puppy foods. They grow tall and lanky quickly, get sore joints (pano), develop deposits. The problems have gone away feeding a lesser protien food. I would feed <25% protien.

Never had any problems feeding a high protein kibble to Pups frm 8 weeks old From 40% to 32% that 32% is the amount at this time in 3.5 month old Hektors Kibble.
The main problem i see is how much a day you feed the Puppy, I feed 3 times a day i put out his ration for the day and split it into 3 meals thats it.
If i track him the food is deducted from his daily ration, I have never had a dog with faulty hips etc all up to now have been a1normal. Your Pup sounds good on what you are feeding him Do not change it,  Looks good, stools good, Coat good, what more are you looking for leave it well alone.
Steve1

I have also had problems with pano when pups were fed high proteins /30/.The problem quickly disappeared when changing it to lower protein /26/.

The problem with people feeding young dogs is that they read stuff and it is then gospel that it is the way it goes in many cases.
There is no concrete proof at all that a high content of Protein in kibble is in any way detrimental to a growing Puppy.
Proteins are the building blocks of any young growth, without it you will get problems, it is for me never a concern of what the protein content is.
I think in a non grain Kibble you will get a higher protein content the base of any Dog food must be MEAT and that is Protein.
Still everyone to there own they are feeding there dogs no one else, I have never had any problems with Joints, Skin, Coat, or any other thing like that in all my long life with dogs.
In the old days some 60 plus years ago the dogs were fed scrapes from the table and Bones if you could get them from the Butcher never a problem.
 Then Kibble came in the dogs did okay still never a problem they still had the left overs from our food if there was any.
 Time went by and the Kibble became a non grain Kibble in part still no problems.
I think if your dog looks good on the food you are feeding it and whatever price you are paying and you can afford it then leave well alone, In the case of the OP he or she is worrying about nothing according to what is put into print.
Steve1

Thanks everyone.   I guess I'll be sticking with the Lamb for now.   He's growing at a nice steady rate, not lanky at all, very solid muscular chest, and he seems to be growing in proportion instead of the awkward lanky stages I see a lot of puppies go through. I guess when he is done growing (in height) I will put him on a higher protein food? I've been told adult Huskies "should" get a higher amount.  I think Buck (the puppies older brother) was on TOTW Salmon and I don't think he went through any awkward lanky stages either.  He finished growing in height at about 9 months of age.  At 6 months he was still shorter than Sierra (the dam)  and by 9 months he was about an inch and 1/2 taller than her.  

Not the best picture of him, but this one is pretty current.





I had to post this one, the look on Buck's face.....I don't remember if he was in mid sneeze or what, but I couldn't help but laugh when I saw this one.





Here are pictures from when Buck was younger.  Buck was 6 and 1/2 months in these pictures, and Little Dude is just now 20 weeks in the pictures I posted of him.  That's Sierra on the other side.



This one is a little bit later on, I think slightly over 7 to 7 and 1/2 months, I can't remember exactly. He got longer....which, Huskies are suppose to be longer than they are tall.



Here is Buck now... Well, as of this past winter, but fully grown in height.

Hey Steve, he is on a grain free food, though it's 25% protein.  Lamb, Lamb meal, and sweet potatoes are the first three ingredients in that order.  I'm not sure if you guys have Taste of the Wild over where you're at or not.

GSDguy08
Funny you should mention that recently TOTW has come to the firm i buy my food online from and TOTW is 25 dollars USA a bag cheaper than the grain free Kibble i feed now, I put this on a thread below, I did look on the site i can buy wetlands a fish kibble and a Bison based kibble but it does not show what the balance is regards Protein Calcium etc that i am care ful about with a young Pup excess calcium is not good for the joints.
Can you tell me where i might view the ingredients of TOTW. It could save me a fair bit of money throughout the year, some 400 USA dollars well worth it if the dogs keep as well on it as they do now and looking at your Dogs in the pic's you have nothing to worry about they look great stay with what you are feeding.
Steve1

Hey steve, I commented on the other thread, I just now saw this comment.  I'll post all of it for you.  It's on Tractor Supplys website, I assume Tractor Supply is just in the States....

Here is the Prairie 

Taste of the Wild High™ Prairie Canine Formula with Roasted Bison & Roasted Venison Dog Food features a grain-free formula designed for all life stages.

• Unique animal protein sources
• No corn, no soy, no by-products
• Fruits & vegetables
• Natural antioxidants
• Omega fatty acid blend
• Supports the digestive system

 

Ingredients:
Bison, Venison, Lamb Meal, Chicken Meal, Egg Product, Sweet Potatoes, Peas, Potatoes, Canola Oil, Roasted Bison, Roasted Venison, Natural Flavor, Tomato Pomace, Ocean Fish Meal, Choline Chloride, Dried Chicory Root, Tomatoes, Blueberries, Raspberries, Yucca Schidigera Extract, Dried Fermentation Products Of Enterococcus Faecium, Lactobacillus Acidophilus, Lactobacillus Casei And Lactobacillus Plantarum, Dried Trichoderma Longibrachiatum Fermentation Extract, Vitamin E Supplement, Iron Proteinate, Zinc Proteinate, Copper Proteinate, Ferrous Sulfate, Zinc Sulfate, Copper Sulfate, Potassium Iodide, Thiamine Mononitrate (Vitamin B1), Manganese Proteinate, Manganous Oxide, Ascorbic Acid, Vitamin A Supplement, Biotin, Calcium Pantothenate, Manganese Sulfate, Sodium Selenite, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride (Vitamin B6), Vitamin B12 Supplement, Riboflavin (Vitamin B2), Vitamin D Supplement, Folic Acid.

Guaranteed Analysis:
Crude Protein (min.) 32.0%, Crude Fat (min.) 18.0%, Omega-6 Fatty Acids (min.) 2.8%%, Omega-3 Fatty Acids (min.) 0.3%%, Moisture (max.) 10.0%, Crude Fiber (max.) 3.0%, Zinc (min.) 150 mg/kg, Selenium (min.) 0.4 mg/kg, Vitamin E (min.) 150 IU/kg.

Caloric Content:
3,719 kcal/kg; 370 kcal/cup.

Feeding instructions:
This is a suggested recommended daily portion. You may need to feed slightly more or less, depending on your dog's activity level and overall fitness. Be sure to provide plenty of fresh, clean water daily. Be sure to consult with a veterinarian if you have questions.

Weight (lb.) -- 6 to 12 weeks -- 3 to 4 months -- 5 to 7 months -- 8 to 12 months -- Adult Dogs
3 to 5 lb. -- 1 to 1-1/3 -- 3/4 to 1-1/4 -- 2/3 to 3/4 -- 1/2 to 2/3 -- 1/3 to 1/2 cups
5 to 10 lb. -- 1-1/3 to 2-1/4 -- 1-1/4 to 2 -- 3/4 to 1-1/3 -- 2/3 to 1 -- 1/2 to 3/4 cups
10 to 20 lb. -- 2-1/4 to 3-1/2 -- 2 to 3 -- 1-1/3 to 2-1/4 -- 1 to 1-3/4 -- 3/4 to 1-1/2 cups
20 to 30 lb. -- 3-1/2 to 4-2/3 -- 3 to 4 -- 2 -1/4 to 3 -- 1-3/4 to 2-1/3 -- 1- 1/2 to 2 cups
30 to 40 lb. -- 4-2/3 to 5-3/4 -- 4 to 5 -- 3 to 3-2/3 -- 2-1/3 to 3 -- 2 to 2-1/3 cups
40 to 60 lb. -- N/A -- 5 to 6-2/3 -- 3-2/3 to 4-3/4 -- 3 to 3-3/4 -- 2-1/3 to 3 cups
60 to 80 lb. -- N/A -- N/A -- 4-3/4 to 5-3/4 -- 3 3/4 to 4-2/3 -- 3 to 3-3/4 cups
80 to 100 lb. -- N/A -- N/A -- 5- 3/4 to 6-3/4 -- 4-2/3 to 5 1/2 -- 3-3/4 to 4-1/3 cups
100 to 125 lb. -- N/A -- N/A -- 6-3/4 to 8 -- 5-1/2 to 6-1/3 -- 4-1/3 to 5 cups
125 to 150 lb. -- N/A -- N/A -- N/A -- 6 -1/3 to 7-1/4 -- 5 to 5-3/4 cups
150 to 175 lb. -- N/A -- N/A -- N/A -- 7-1/4 to 9 -- 5-3/4 to 6-1/2 cups