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by kennajo on 09 June 2011 - 06:06
I am just curious what ever one thinks about them?
by SitasMom on 09 June 2011 - 07:06
IMO - a pinch collar when used correctly is safer and more humane then a choak or slip collar.
the pinch collar must be fitted correctly.
for young puppies, only flat collars are appropriate.
by hoof n paw on 09 June 2011 - 11:06
I agree with SitasMom the pinch collar is a very effective tool. A knowledgable trainer uses all the tools available to them, whether it be positive based training through electronic collars. While we all may have ourspecific preferences, there are some dogs who respond better using one technique or equipment than another. A lot depends on the age, size, and temperament of the dog. All methods have strengths and weaknesses. I have used prong collars since the seventies when working with GSDs and Dobermans and never hurt a dog. Though a prong collar looks draconian I find that it gives a more effective correction and is less likely to injure a dog the choke or slip collars. If your not familiar with the prong have someone help you fit it and show you how to use it.

by TingiesandTails on 09 June 2011 - 15:06
I agree,I think it's appropriate for adult dogs of medium and large breeds as temporary correction and not as permanent collar.If you have ever watched adult dogs correct each other - nothing seems draconian with a prong collar anymore....

by GSDNewbie on 09 June 2011 - 16:06
I agree with everyone else and i think it is stupid when people ban them and allow chokers just because the pinch collar does look like a torture device. They never bother to find out about it before screaming it is an abusive collar. IMO all choke collars need to be banned instead.
Like any other tool you must know how to size and correctly use it. Pet peeve is people loose long leash strolling with a loose sloppy fitting prong collar that they obviously do not know anything about and are using it as a control instead of working the dog as a training tool to correct issues with it as it was designed to do. Lazy owners/trainers can make any piece of equipment bad and cause problems with it. It is not the prong/pinch collar that becomes a problem, but as usual the person in control of the prong.
Like any other tool you must know how to size and correctly use it. Pet peeve is people loose long leash strolling with a loose sloppy fitting prong collar that they obviously do not know anything about and are using it as a control instead of working the dog as a training tool to correct issues with it as it was designed to do. Lazy owners/trainers can make any piece of equipment bad and cause problems with it. It is not the prong/pinch collar that becomes a problem, but as usual the person in control of the prong.

by VKGSDs on 09 June 2011 - 16:06
I use them on all my dogs for a variety of things. When I get them out they hear the sound and come running! They want to train or go out!
by kennajo on 09 June 2011 - 18:06
Thanks for the replys everyone. I agree that it is a training tool and used properly is an effective one.

by Mindhunt on 09 June 2011 - 19:06
I have used them on all my GSDs efter being trained in how to use them properly by my trainer. I believe they are more effective than choke or e-collar. It is all about knowing how to use tools properly. My dogs are like VKGSD's, they hear the prong collars jingle and they are at my feet in a heart beat, the only time they move as fast is dinner time.
I have seen choke collars, haltie head harnesses, and e-collars all used incorrectly and cause major issues with the dogs both physically and psychologically (especially the e-collars). I put giving e-collars, prong collars, and such to giving a teenager a nailgun, unless that teenager has received proper education on how to use it safely and has the mental maturity to accept the responsibility for using it correctly, the teenager does not get to touch the nail gun.
I have seen choke collars, haltie head harnesses, and e-collars all used incorrectly and cause major issues with the dogs both physically and psychologically (especially the e-collars). I put giving e-collars, prong collars, and such to giving a teenager a nailgun, unless that teenager has received proper education on how to use it safely and has the mental maturity to accept the responsibility for using it correctly, the teenager does not get to touch the nail gun.

by lovejags on 10 June 2011 - 04:06
GSDNEWBIE, WHY WOULD YOU THINK THAT CHOKE COLLARS SHOULD BE BANNED? JUST CURIOUS AS I HAVE USED THEM TO OB TRAIN MANY GSD'S. THANKS.

by GSDNewbie on 10 June 2011 - 05:06
Because the pinch works well for training and the choke ends up in wrong hands doing more damage than the pinch on dogs through misuse. If i had a dollar for everyone leaveing one on and a dog getting caught in fence or hung or thrat damaged.... I could save many homless dogs with that money. I also want flexi leads and haltis gone so....... take my ideas with a grain of salt lol
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