What Would YOU Do II

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by Mystere on 19 April 2011 - 19:04

Hypothetical # 2:

Club A has a trial scheduled. Individual X submits an entry, comes to the club field to practice and the next day announces that his bitch has gone into season. X wants to be accommodated, but, because the trial schedule is already set to accommodate multiple out-of-state and out-of-country entrants, it is not possible to simply move X to the end of the trial, which would be the normal course with a bitch in season. Individual W, upon hearing that X pulled, is incensed, because X has a habit of entering trials with bitches in, or near, season, often without telling anyone in advance. W feels that he has failed at least two trials, where he and his male ended up paired with X and a bitch in season. W demands that the field and surrounding area be "sanitized" prior to the trial. Club A refuses to do so, contending the at the area's steady rainfall will take care of any lingering scent during the course of the ten days prior to the trial, and offers to return W' either return of his entry fee, or a place in the club's next trial scheduled in six weeks. W refuses either option, and insists that the field be "sanitized."

What would you and/or your club do in response?

Hypothetical #3:

Club A has a trial scheduled and it is a regional championship. Several entrants are entered in order to qualify for the USCA National Championship, and at least four are hoping to also obtain their qualifying score (270 pts) at the trial, as well. The regional is scheduled as a three-day event. X enters with a bitch. Also entered is Individual G, who claims that she must go on the last day, because her bitch is in season. At draw night, Individual W complains to the trial secretary that he wants X's bitch checked by a vet, as to whether or not the dog is in season; he also wants Individual G's bitch checked by a vet, because W contends that G has used that season excuse three times in the last 8 months, in order to have more training time during a trial. Finally, W demands that Individual E's bitch be disqualified, because the bitch is on Cheque Drops to prevent her from going into season; W contends that the bitch is not "drug-free."

What would you and/or your club do in response to W's demands?

by remione1 on 19 April 2011 - 19:04

Tell him to put his big girl panties on & stop complaining. If he doesn't like it, pull & put on his own trial. If majority of entrents are complaining then deal with the issue but if it's just one, kick rocks ;)

by Mystere on 19 April 2011 - 20:04

Is that for X or W, or both?      I would return X's entry fee-period.

The issue with W's demands at the regional are a bit different.   W may be raising legitimate concerns regarding unsportsmanlike conduct of at least two of the other entrants. If it can be documented that G's bitch has been accommodated far more frequently than one would think possible over a given period of time, it might be reasonable for the club to have all the bitches entered in the regional checked by a vet (especially if one is a member of the club).

E's bitch is another issue. Essentially, E's bitch is on birth control. How would you address that?   There is nothing in the Trial Rulebook about it.

by Ninja181 on 19 April 2011 - 20:04

Hence the saying:

"X" marks the spot.

Sorry Mystere I couldn't resist.

Good luck solving this one.

by beetree on 19 April 2011 - 20:04

I think one should go with "the spirit" of the rule, in regards to drugs. The rule was surely written to prevent enhancements like steroids, but a birth control drug, would not qualify as an enhancement. As a matter of fact, that person seems to be doing the male dogs a good turn.

by beetree on 19 April 2011 - 22:04

A real nice person just informed me that the drops for birth control are steroid related, and the research is inconclusive so I guess I'll have to say, NEVERMIND to my post above, this is up to the clubs to decide if E is eligible. At this point I would think to say, since it wasn't named specifically, they could be allowed this time, and then future trials should have this issue sorted out by the clubs, even if it means NO for future entrants.

by Bhaugh on 20 April 2011 - 02:04

Maybe Im off base here but whatever happened to dogs being ready to compete no matter what the conditions. I know a bitch is season is asking alot from the dog but if the dog is truly ready to compete, the dog is truly ready to compete. Competitor W needs to step up or step out.

Im not much into complaining. If handlers dont like the rules then dont go. It isnt like your competing against each other for titles. If that were the case things would be different. There will always be complainers. I just dont want to hear from them.

by jaggirl47 on 20 April 2011 - 02:04

Does this have to do with the person X from your last thread or is this something completely new?

by VomMarischal on 20 April 2011 - 02:04

Mystere are you talking about me again???
DANGIT!

by Myracle on 20 April 2011 - 02:04

Cheque drops are an androgen steroid, so yes, it's appropriate to exclude a bitch taking an androgenic steroid from competition.

Fertility isn't a medical condition, and there are methods to prevent unwanted breedings, so it cannot be argued that the medication is medically necessary.

By placing the burden on medical necessity, you avoid creating a slippery slope whereby dogs being treated for other medical disorders could be excluded from competition.

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