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by hallix on 30 March 2011 - 05:03

Hi,

I was wondering what the normal reaction of puppies to Safeguard is. I've been wondering about it lately. :) Last time I used it, it made the puppy very lethargic and I was wondering if next time I should try something else.

Thanks,
Haley

by eichenluft on 30 March 2011 - 13:03

safeguard is not made for dogs, it is made for livestock - and livestock are many times larger than puppies. You could easily be overdosing your puppies. Give them a wormer formulated for puppies! Not worth the risk especially for puppies.

by GSDguy08 on 30 March 2011 - 13:03

Really eichenluft?

by GSDguy08 on 30 March 2011 - 13:03

http://www.safe-guard-for-dogs.com/safeguard-dewormer.asp

by Jenni78 on 30 March 2011 - 13:03

Fenbendazole is Fenbendazole, regardless of brand name.

Haley, I'm guessing if you saw lethargy, it was a result of not feeling well due to die-off of worms; this releases toxins. You would almost have to drown a puppy in Safeguard to kill it. There are different dosages depending on the purpose. Generally, it's a 3 day course, I use 5 days or more for giardia though. The canine dose for giardia is much higher than the goat dosage for worms, so if you're using the dose on the back, it's highly unlikely you overdosed your pups.

by eichenluft on 30 March 2011 - 14:03

I was talking, obviously, of safeguard formulated for livestock - which many people give to their dogs. Which is completely STUPID and dangerous especially for puppies. If it is formulated for dogs and you give the correct dose, then shouldn't be a problem at all - as said already, the lethargy could be from a heavy worm-load being killed off. Puppies probably need to be wormed again sooner rather than later, and they may have needed more regular worming to prevent the heavy load "all at once".

molly

by jamesfountain98 on 30 March 2011 - 14:03

Molly not sure which safeguard for livestock you are referring to (liquid or paste) but both have lesser concentrations of the same active ingrediant than the same product for canine.

active ingrediant: fenbendazole
livestock concentrations 10% (100 Mg/ml)

Canine concentrations 22.2% (222mg/g)

by ziegenfarm on 30 March 2011 - 15:03

i use pyrantel pamoate liquid for puppies until they reach approx 50 lbs. it is mild but effective on only a few varieties of worms. when they reach about 50 lbs, i will switch them to fenbendazole (safeguard) which is what i use on all the adult dogs. i have not found that there is any resistance to this wormer by the parasites - if i find that it is not getting everything, i will rotate wormers. have not found that to be the case so far. i rarely ever ever breed a dog, but for those that do, fenbendazole has been approved for pregnant bitches. i would rather see them dewormed before breeding, but if it was necessary i would use fenbendazole.
pjp

by Nans gsd on 30 March 2011 - 15:03

Safeguard for dogs does not get whip worm any more; used to but they changed that; too effective I guess; so if that is a problem for you I would use Drontal plus. Gets everything. I think it's OK for puppies, check with your vet. Goes by weight, of course. Nan

by GSDguy08 on 30 March 2011 - 15:03

Nans, I can't remember what age they allow Drontal plus on, but I do know my vet said do not use Drontal plus on a pregnant dog, or a nursing female.

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