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by mentayflor on 07 April 2014 - 23:04
Yes, I would also feel proud of such a dog, if he'd been shot now would be a victim rather than a hero. It's a pity that some people defend the abuse of power against defenseless beings.

by Hired Dog on 08 April 2014 - 00:04
I have a friend who has a permanent disability because of his own defenseless animal, he will never work again in his life.
Again, when emotions take over, its hard to see clearly.

by deacon on 08 April 2014 - 16:04
How would you know it is not more dangerous today than it was ago? I first went to an acadamy in 1972 the training then compares little to nothing compared to todays training. I attended another when I changed states to police, the training of officer survival was so much improved it was rediculous Officer survival tactics have progressed immensly over the last 2 decades and continues to evolve almost daily. Officer survival is practiced routinely in training, so to make that stupid comment is rediculous.
Just like when I worked my first PSD there was little to no tactical training taught. Today tactical training is essential do to the average criminal carrying all types of weapons compared to then. My students receive a lot of it and I am constantly updating it as well
lastly concerning the swat teams equipped, why don't you go in on a barricaded suspect with just a hand gun and vest and see just how safe you feel.
It is so easy for you people to criticize what we do, but when you are in a building with little to no lighting looking for a perp with a pistol or long gun who is waiting around the corner I would just prefer you keep your ignorant comments to yourself or grab a vest a badge, weapon and get out there and do my job. Oh my bad, you are to busy typing and criticizing.
by GSDoldtimerlady on 08 April 2014 - 19:04
Deacon:
I am presuming you are referencing my comments.
I have the utmost respect for the normal everyday officer who is serving and keeping his community safe.
I do, however, have great concern with the officers who disrepect people who are doing no wrong like the family on the trip whose dog was shot, the guy who was pretty much anally raped repeatedly for not fully stopping at a stop sign and then he made the huge mistake of clenching his butt cheeks ( shocker, I would probably tense up, too).
Oh, I never brought up the women who were cavity searched by the roadside, either. The least they could have done would be to take them out of view of all the cars driving by.
Or, how about the family who was asleep in the early morning who were awakened to officers breaking down their door, they were cuffed, and their apartment being swept when the cops were looking for the guy in the next apartment.
I believe these will all be decided in courts at to whether the cops will be found guilty of violating these people's civil rights. So, the question is moot right now. Too bad the taxpayers will foot the bill for the lawsuit and awards.
You have every right to be as safe as you can be in your job. Whatever it takes; vests, dogs, good service weapons.
I just object to normal citizens being shot, their property destroyed, people being thrown to the ground and kicked in the head, etc, etc. This just seems to be escalating more every day.
Just as there are quite a few bad people out there, there are also quite a few bad cops out there. Time also to start random drug testing for controlled substances. I still have not received an answer as to whether steroids/ AASs/ HGH are legal or illegal for LEOs to use.
Do you really need those huge MRAP's in small town America? Holy sh*t this is not Kandahar City.
Stay safe out there. Lori

by Hired Dog on 08 April 2014 - 19:04
Lori, the next time you see an officer who you think looks like he is doing steroids, you should stop and ask him, that will take care of your question instead of posting it in here where no one knows.
Since you are friends with your local agency, why not stop by there and inquire, I am sure they will answer you.

by deacon on 08 April 2014 - 20:04
The use of steroids is illegal in our agency and most I know of around here. By city policy "ALL" officers are routinly piss tested. I get it more than most because I handle the drugs used for training not only ours but other agencies drug dogs. In addition my assigned drugs are occasionally weighed by a supervisor to ensure they have not been tampered with.
In cases such as you mentioned, I can only comment for my current agency, somebodys butt would be hung out to dry!!
by GSDoldtimerlady on 08 April 2014 - 20:04
HD:
Wow, temper, temper, I did not pee in your Cherrios today. Not sure about tomorrow, though!
If I thought someone was on steroids, as evidenced by their huge muscles and belligerent attitude, the last thing I would do is walk up and ask them about it. I would probably end up on the ground.
I know nothing about "roids" other than the research I have done, but since you brought up "doing a cycle" and are defensive about them, do you have close personal knowlege of them? Personally, I prefer using my brains rather than the "natural" muscles I have. I have no need to bulk up like the "Hulk".
"Friends with your local agency..."? I don't know any of them. I have a very low profile life, never had a speeding ticket and one parking ticket in my entire life.
I do believe in sticking up for abuse victims, though, whether by a marriage partner, or a thug on the street who ISN"T or IS carrying a badge and a gun.
Even though it is slowly but surely changing, we in these United States still have the rights to express our opinions, keep and bear arms, maintain our person and our homes against illegal search and seizure, among others. Oh, we are also innocent until proven guilty.
Have a great day and maybe take a chill pill! Lori
To Deacon,
Thanks for your reply.
It is my understanding that anabolic steroids, HGH, AASs, etc do not show up on a urine test. Is then a different test administered if one is suspected of using these substances? What happens if one tests positive?
Thank you for an intelligent, non snarky response. Lori

by susie on 10 April 2014 - 16:04
" It is my understanding that anabolic steroids, HGH, AASs, etc do not show up on a urine test. "
The professional athletes would be more than glad...
by GSDoldtimerlady on 10 April 2014 - 17:04
Yep, they sure would be. I was amazed at how many people taking them were trying to get by drug tests. Obviously if they are trying to cheat on drug tests there is something wrong. Not only that, but these idiots putting that crap in their bodies to muscle themselves up are at risk of cardiac troubles in the future.
And, the 2 guys on here trying to blow smoke up my a** didn't have a come back to me. I research stuff before I post it. I may be older but that doesn't mean I am stupid.
I meant to reply to you about your post about cops are out there to help and protect we the people. Actually they are not. They are to protect themselves only. If you got in their way, they wouldn't hesitate to mow you down to get to a bad guy. It is just collateral damage to them.
Sad to say, the stereotypical Andy Taylor of Mayberry has gone the way of the dinosaur to be replaced by a miltarized force. They are as well equipped as the soldiers in the Gulf war. They get the excess weaponry and MRAPs. Those suckers cost the taxpayers $400,000 to $700,000 each. Do small towns really need something like that?
I bet it would be wicked fun to ride around in one! Wouldn't want to pay for the gas though. They get about 5 MPG.

by susie on 10 April 2014 - 17:04
Obviously neither your husband nor your brother nor your son are cops.
This would change your mind dramatically.
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