Breeding a Dog with a Dysplastic Sibling - Page 3

macrowe, you've got that right--I'm a VERY responsible breeder.  I haven't yet had a GSD that was so outstanding and exceptional, that met all health, conformation and working requirements, that it would be a disservice to the breed not to allow him or her to reproduce--so I haven't bred a single litter.  Nor have I produced any offspring myself--'cause I know there's no need to pass these genes on, either!  

Ok, I get it now. The op said two vets and Dr Keller said IF, big fat IF, her female has good hips, and only one sibling has hd, she can breed her. It was the IF that I took for DOES. So, I recant my first post on this thread, given the subsequent info.

Ive had so MANY wacky dogs come through rescue that even though Im a stickler on hips, mental has become more important to me these days. A mentally unsound dog is impossible to place and a couple I have even had to put a couple down. WHY IN THE HELL do people think this is acceptable? $$$$$$$$$$$. Makes me sick.

States should require people who breed these dogs take them back when they loose their marbles and hurt someone!

haha hexe, I'm super picky. I have a young pup I'm hoping may turn into a worthy bitch in a few years.

OK so if I have the story straight a sibling to the bitch that has been bred has elbow dysplasia;  the bitch herself that has been bred does not have a hip clearance;  the bitch that has been bred has possible temperament issues along with her dam that has temperament issues.  really??  Do you think with these issues mentioned along with the issues NOT mentioned that any of these bitches are breed worthy?  WTF. 

I agree with Joanro on this. From reading all the postings on this site and with my own experience with EPI, if it were unethical to breed dogs whose siblings showed health issues as opposed to the parents and the dog you wish to breed, there would be no more german shepherds left on this planet. If your dog is fine, and the parents are fine, what more do you need to go on. I am sure even ancestory.com couldn't help you more than that. I think it is unethical to breed a dog that has had EPI puppies in the past, or hip or elbow issues in the past, but to go beyond the parents and start looking at great aunts and uncles and cousins twice removed, is a bit much.  Besides shouldn't you only be buying a puppy from breeder that guarantees her puppies??

Yup, I'm in the choir too, and am definitely a cranky old bat, and that is official

When did the mantra 'health and temperament' which ALWAYS went hand in hand get lost somewhere along the way ? Hells bells, sometimes people seem to think you don't need either now.

Now I agree with Hexe, that there are not that many GSDs that are crying out to be bred that are going to further the breed. Far from it. The notion that not to breed from a proportion of dogs within the breed would render the GSD extinct is IMO a nonsense, and largely a myth. Many, if not most of these would not have done the breed any favours or made a drop of difference in the first place, many are merely average except in the owners eye to begin with. Some will produce a litter or two and disappear forever. To decide not to breed them in future because siblings are not turning out so great is comparable to someone deciding not to breed their dog/s at all because they didn't consider them especially breed worthy to begin with. It will have little impact on the breed as a whole. Tomorrow someone else will come along and breed their GSDs and replace them - there will be a perpetual turnover.    It is late, I have a toothache and I don't know if I am putting over what I mean very well.