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by FerrumGSDs on 30 October 2012 - 05:10

This is a hard question because you must factor in the grade or degree to which the animal is affected. I know of one breeder that was kind enough to share info on an OFA Excellent to Excellent breeding. The results 1 Excellent, 2 good 2 fair, 1 non passing (6 tested) and several that were not sent in as the owners did not do so. I don't think we have good enough statistics to tell yet. I do think that the scoring agencies know more than they tell us. 

by Dmoyse80 on 30 October 2012 - 13:10

It's genetics and common sense should go hand in hand on this one, you should never bred a dog that has known mental stability and full blown elbow dysplacsia so close. The history of the dogs is totally unknown. I know their are some professionals who have done this long enough to make a decision. But We are not talking about someone who is a professional. I guess the genetics will fall where they do. To me knownly taking the risk is stuiped, I could see if these dogs were high dollar expansive imports but these are not! We are taking about dogs that were $300 and sold as pets anyway not breeders from an individuals.

We also have found someone else who owns a puppy out of this litter and he said his dog has some mental stability issues, and has shown signs of Lameness, so this again is not the 1st puppy that has some issues.

Thank you so much for all the information everyone has given !

PerdueK9

by PerdueK9 on 30 October 2012 - 13:10

Thanks for all the advice

Dayna Voorhees

by Dayna Voorhees on 30 October 2012 - 13:10

I personally would not do a breeding with this female. As a breeder of over 20 years, I personally don't feel comfortable taking a risk such as this when the dogs themselves have a very weak pedigree anyway. Its not a good thing to do, I purchased a dog in the past to add to my program and he came down with severe elbow dysplasia in 1 elbow by 8 mons old, I acted immediately and this dog was not added to my breeding program he was returned to the original breeder and I was able to get a full refund as well as all my vet bills reimbursed.
I don't like to personally take these types of risks and KNOWINGLY breeding a dog when their is elbow dysplasia and stability issues in the immediate bloodline is not my cup of tea, this is just my opinion I try to do the best I can and just the right thing by my clients to minimize the risk.

by hexe on 30 October 2012 - 14:10

Ya, OK, so you had this bitch radiographed in March of this year, and OFA gave you a preliminary rating of good--which tells me that she wasn't yet 2 years of age when you had the films done. In fact, she's still not even 2 years old YET, but you STILL bred her anyway. So you actually DON'T have an OFA rating on this bitch, but you bred her anyway.  No working titles, no certifications in any field, no third-party conformation rating or title, but she's 'everything' you 'want in a GSD', so you bred her anyway.  Wonderful.  So you're planning on keeping the entire litter, then?  Because while she may be everything YOU want, she's lacking a whole hell of a lot of stuff that a BUYER should want.  As if there aren't enough GSDs in the rescue channels already...why not produce more that will likely as not end up in that circuit, too?

And here's a question for you: how is it that when I plug the AKC registration number you've got listed for Nadia into the OFA site, it comes back with a completely different bitch, one that's nearly 6 years old, and only has a DM test result? And how is it that there is no record of a hip prelim result for a GSD bitch named Nadia Van Hirten in the OFA on-line database?

Yeah, I'm a cranky old bat these days, one that's pretty damn disgusted at how off-handedly people breed dogs that offer nothing beneficial to anyone or anything beyond the bitch owner's checkbook.

PerdueK9

by PerdueK9 on 30 October 2012 - 15:10

DN29629607 This is Nadias AKC Number  She is not in OFA Database her prelimb is at the Vet She is 23 months old.
I apologize for the confusion.

by jaggirl47 on 30 October 2012 - 16:10

Her prelims are at the vet? Then she never actually had prelims done. Your vet took an xray and you run with it. You actually have to send it in for a rating to say your dog's prelims are good. This is pretty sad.

vonissk

by vonissk on 30 October 2012 - 16:10

Thumbs Up Ah Hexe you are singing my song. The one about how many dogs are in rescue now because people that had no clue bred a litter anyway. And if you are a cranky Bat then so am I. Couldn't find myself in better company.
Well said Danya...................I would never breed the dog, either.
My mentor bought a DDR boy from an OFA EX bitch and an a stamped import. A name brand one I might add but I'm not going to name names here. Well poor Ahron has ED and HD. The guarantee placed upon him means no more then a piece of dog poop lying in the gutter. So what do you do? She has the dog that she is trying to place cause other than his joint problems he has a super temperament and is a sweetie but who wants a dog like that? I would bring him over here because I feel sorry for him but I am not set up for 2 males......................

Hundmutter

by Hundmutter on 30 October 2012 - 16:10

Can  I join your Chorus,  Vonissk & Hexe, Sad Smile Note?

macrowe1

by macrowe1 on 31 October 2012 - 01:10

I'm with Hexe, and I don't think you're cranky haha, you're just a more responsible breeder. I am one who is super picky about orthopedics. I know you can opt for the scores not to show on OFA's website, but if they were prelim good, why would you not want to show that?





 


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