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by GSD4dogs on 23 October 2012 - 00:10
Those who know me, know I don't quit easily and normally I believe in working from within. But I also need to look in the mirror and be comfortable with the person I see. Today, I do not like who I am. I lost my temper yesterday and while I stood for what I believe is right, the way I did it was not right. I can give excuses and reason but at the end of the day what I did was still wrong. I also spent the last few months walking a tight rope, wanting to speak out but believing that doing that would only hurt the NASS. So, instead of being true to myself, I allowed myself to be bullied and abused and pushed to the point where I need to say enough. I am done. I will find other ways to work for and with the breed I love.
by mad on 23 October 2012 - 02:10
Well, I was wondering why the Region 1 director was standing in the ring for the 9-12 males?
by OGBS on 23 October 2012 - 06:10
What does WDA stand for?
Is it Whackjob Dipshit Association?
What a mess, and, it didn't have to happen.
I know GSD4dogs, and believe me if she is quitting things are really, really, really bad!
A couple of years ago the WDA had a golden opportunity to really strengthen themselves after the fallout from the so-called Johannes Amendment (which, by the way, will likely change after this year's GBM in Nashville next week. Thank you, Nia!). However, those who seized power of the WDA during this time of opportunity did what so many fools do, they incorrectly assumed they already had the game won, when in fact the work they needed to do hadn't even begun. Add the morons from the GSDCA that decided it was time to take back control of the WDA with the 2013 WUSV approaching and now you have an enormous mess on your hands.
To those of you feeling disenchanted with this situation --------> move on.
There are better organizations that will appreciate your time and effort.
You are all more than smart enough to know that anything connected to (and now being overrun by) the GSDCA is going to implode.
It starts right with what they have done to the dogs.
Lousy temperament, incorrect structure, major health problems, and zero working ability.
They shouldn't even be allowed to call themselves the German Shepherd Dog Club of America.
The dogs they promote stopped being German Shepherd Dogs a long, long time ago.
We should all band together and file suit against them to force them to change their name to the American Shepherd Dog Club.
If they want to continue along the present path, let them, but not with the name German Shepherd Dog attached to them.
They have no business being affiliated with the WUSV in any way.
UScA, while certainly not perfect, is the only national club in this country that promotes the true German Shepherd Dog.
We don't need two national clubs in this country affiliated with the WUSV.
We need one strong organization and it definitely is not the GSDCA, or, anything affiliated with it.
If you truely care about this breed, please think about this.
The dogs are depending on us!
--Steve
Is it Whackjob Dipshit Association?
What a mess, and, it didn't have to happen.
I know GSD4dogs, and believe me if she is quitting things are really, really, really bad!
A couple of years ago the WDA had a golden opportunity to really strengthen themselves after the fallout from the so-called Johannes Amendment (which, by the way, will likely change after this year's GBM in Nashville next week. Thank you, Nia!). However, those who seized power of the WDA during this time of opportunity did what so many fools do, they incorrectly assumed they already had the game won, when in fact the work they needed to do hadn't even begun. Add the morons from the GSDCA that decided it was time to take back control of the WDA with the 2013 WUSV approaching and now you have an enormous mess on your hands.
To those of you feeling disenchanted with this situation --------> move on.
There are better organizations that will appreciate your time and effort.
You are all more than smart enough to know that anything connected to (and now being overrun by) the GSDCA is going to implode.
It starts right with what they have done to the dogs.
Lousy temperament, incorrect structure, major health problems, and zero working ability.
They shouldn't even be allowed to call themselves the German Shepherd Dog Club of America.
The dogs they promote stopped being German Shepherd Dogs a long, long time ago.
We should all band together and file suit against them to force them to change their name to the American Shepherd Dog Club.
If they want to continue along the present path, let them, but not with the name German Shepherd Dog attached to them.
They have no business being affiliated with the WUSV in any way.
UScA, while certainly not perfect, is the only national club in this country that promotes the true German Shepherd Dog.
We don't need two national clubs in this country affiliated with the WUSV.
We need one strong organization and it definitely is not the GSDCA, or, anything affiliated with it.
If you truely care about this breed, please think about this.
The dogs are depending on us!
--Steve
by OGBS on 23 October 2012 - 07:10
One other thing.
A few of you have brought up the Region 1 Director.
Most everyone knows who you are talking about.
You can see who he is on the WDA web site also.
https://www.gsdca-wda.org/asp/contactus.aspx
That brings me to my next question.
Why is he allowed to promote his kennel on the WDA web site?
I realize that is his email address, but, is it really okay that he uses the WDA's web site to promote his kennel?
Shouldn't he be using a different email address for his contact info on the WDA web site?
Is there an issue of ethics involved here?
Didn't one of the past WDA presidents get in a lot of hot water over something very similar to this?
Just wondering.............
A few of you have brought up the Region 1 Director.
Most everyone knows who you are talking about.
You can see who he is on the WDA web site also.
https://www.gsdca-wda.org/asp/contactus.aspx
That brings me to my next question.
Why is he allowed to promote his kennel on the WDA web site?
I realize that is his email address, but, is it really okay that he uses the WDA's web site to promote his kennel?
Shouldn't he be using a different email address for his contact info on the WDA web site?
Is there an issue of ethics involved here?
Didn't one of the past WDA presidents get in a lot of hot water over something very similar to this?
Just wondering.............
by workingdogz on 23 October 2012 - 10:10
I'm just curious as to why Mr Wilendorf felt the need to try
and have a youth female handler disqualified?
I hope someone has that on video and post's it?
If the entire scenario went down in the manner we heard it,
well, in my opinion- You Mr Wilendorf, you SUCK.
Win at all costs John?
and have a youth female handler disqualified?
I hope someone has that on video and post's it?
If the entire scenario went down in the manner we heard it,
well, in my opinion- You Mr Wilendorf, you SUCK.
Win at all costs John?
by seenitb4 on 23 October 2012 - 11:10
The Johannes Amendment possibly going away is the best news I've heard since I've been involved with dogs. As Steve explained it allowed the WDA to be in the position it is now to become stronger than it could manage and to totally disappoint as a result.
People simply changed registrations like crazy putting their husbands, wives, sisters, brothers and long lost cousins on the paperwork to get around JA so what did it accomplish besides running off previous members from USCA who didn't want to change their registrations. It was devisive and wrong and never should have been allowed to happen. The agenda of one man should not be allowed to control the GSD breed in this country. Period. And this is where it's brought us.
With the Johannes Amendment stricken perhaps we can have one, strong, vital organization in this country.
People simply changed registrations like crazy putting their husbands, wives, sisters, brothers and long lost cousins on the paperwork to get around JA so what did it accomplish besides running off previous members from USCA who didn't want to change their registrations. It was devisive and wrong and never should have been allowed to happen. The agenda of one man should not be allowed to control the GSD breed in this country. Period. And this is where it's brought us.
With the Johannes Amendment stricken perhaps we can have one, strong, vital organization in this country.
by Keith Grossman on 23 October 2012 - 13:10
"Is there an issue of ethics involved here?"
I'm guessing this is a rhetorical question?
I'm guessing this is a rhetorical question?
by crhuerta on 23 October 2012 - 13:10
We also attended the NASS this year......a HUGE THANK YOU to ALL volunteers! They exhausted themselves both physically and mentally, so that this event could be successful for everyone.
Personally I think the way things ended up was a dissapointment from both sides.......the situation should never have happened.
*Rules* need to be clearer for those participating....and then followed...or *changed* at a later date.
No one is above anyone else in this organization.....at least they should NOT be.....which includes persons of office. Without it's members, an organization is simply a hollow title or name, and will crumble from within from lack of support.
Many people did their jobs....others created so much "drama" from one situation to another, that using the word *pathetic* would be mild.....
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Many of us used to enjoy these events.....every year...it's getting harder to enjoy, from the obvious politics involved, to the hatred & abuse of individuals within the membership........
I can only hope that since they allowed things to "blow up" so badly this year....that they can learn from this and change things around for the future.
JMO......nothing more.
Personally I think the way things ended up was a dissapointment from both sides.......the situation should never have happened.
*Rules* need to be clearer for those participating....and then followed...or *changed* at a later date.
No one is above anyone else in this organization.....at least they should NOT be.....which includes persons of office. Without it's members, an organization is simply a hollow title or name, and will crumble from within from lack of support.
Many people did their jobs....others created so much "drama" from one situation to another, that using the word *pathetic* would be mild.....
.
Many of us used to enjoy these events.....every year...it's getting harder to enjoy, from the obvious politics involved, to the hatred & abuse of individuals within the membership........
I can only hope that since they allowed things to "blow up" so badly this year....that they can learn from this and change things around for the future.
JMO......nothing more.
by grshep9 on 23 October 2012 - 14:10
The board will tell us the way to have change in the organization is to participate in the membership meeting. They continue to tell us all the wonderful things they do for us in the magazine. The only true way to make changes is to affect this organization in the pocketbook. Contact the corporate sponsors. Contact Frank Fasano at the GSDCA. Contact the GSDCA corporate sponsors.
by Kevin Nance on 23 October 2012 - 15:10
UScA has never had an issue with the individual membership of WDA. Cheryl and I just had a wonderful experience with the folks at Bur Oak Hundesport at a very well run club trial and show who's membership was as high quality as any in our organization.
The larger issue has alway been GSDCA's overwhelming influence on the direction of the breed in this country and their promotion thereof. Under that scenario, the influence of the WDA and it's adherence to the FCI and SV standard will always be checked at some level.
UScA with all of our warts, simply does not operate under that constraint and is not hampered in its efforts by a huge, domestic parent organization promoting a completely other type of "german" shepherd dog.
Thus, the real disagreement from my standpoint is with the hierarchy of the GSDCA and their necessarily subservient underling the WDA in their influence of the breed in this country. They both "deserve" to exist, but I would personally prefer no intermixing of these two widely separate goals for our breed. GSDCA merely "uses" it's minor offshoot the WDA to legitimize itself to the FCI and WUSV as breeding within the internationally accepted standard.
I personally advocate the following as it is the blueprint for nearly every other FCI and WUSV participating country:
1. A sole national breed registry that accepts and promotes any breeding of any pure breed dog for a fee (the GSDCA and AKC).
2. A sole national breed registry that accepts and promotes the breeding of pure breed working dogs with performance titles, agreed upon health checks, and ultimately a Koerung.
They, the GSDCA, can rightfully keep their "standard" while we rightfully promote ours without their influence or "permission" to exist.
However it works out, my very best wishes to the individuals from both organizations who share the value of preserving the heritage of the German Shepherd as a working dog.
Kevin Nance
The larger issue has alway been GSDCA's overwhelming influence on the direction of the breed in this country and their promotion thereof. Under that scenario, the influence of the WDA and it's adherence to the FCI and SV standard will always be checked at some level.
UScA with all of our warts, simply does not operate under that constraint and is not hampered in its efforts by a huge, domestic parent organization promoting a completely other type of "german" shepherd dog.
Thus, the real disagreement from my standpoint is with the hierarchy of the GSDCA and their necessarily subservient underling the WDA in their influence of the breed in this country. They both "deserve" to exist, but I would personally prefer no intermixing of these two widely separate goals for our breed. GSDCA merely "uses" it's minor offshoot the WDA to legitimize itself to the FCI and WUSV as breeding within the internationally accepted standard.
I personally advocate the following as it is the blueprint for nearly every other FCI and WUSV participating country:
1. A sole national breed registry that accepts and promotes any breeding of any pure breed dog for a fee (the GSDCA and AKC).
2. A sole national breed registry that accepts and promotes the breeding of pure breed working dogs with performance titles, agreed upon health checks, and ultimately a Koerung.
They, the GSDCA, can rightfully keep their "standard" while we rightfully promote ours without their influence or "permission" to exist.
However it works out, my very best wishes to the individuals from both organizations who share the value of preserving the heritage of the German Shepherd as a working dog.
Kevin Nance
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