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by Blitzen on 02 September 2012 - 12:09
Still no answer to my question - how much EXACLY has GOP obstructionism and union busting cost the county in job loss? And don't dare to say none.
by SitasMom on 02 September 2012 - 15:09
Blitzen, it all depends on who wrote the article, I would have to stay the opposite, that it has created many jobs and if we don't turn it back it will cost many, many more jobs.
GOP is obstructing the many laws there will cause even more pressure on private business and citizens. This is a good thing......
When Unions were first formed, strong warnings were made agains government unions.......yet, now we have them. In any private industry there are checks and balances... if the unions demands are too high, the company fails........ in government the unions keep demanding more and we the tax payers end up holding the bag. I guess the ultimate ballance for government unions is when our country fails.
TSA has become unionized and is one of the biggest and most powerful government union......power in so many different ways..... power to strike, power to stop travel, power to throw people in detention!
GOP is obstructing the many laws there will cause even more pressure on private business and citizens. This is a good thing......
When Unions were first formed, strong warnings were made agains government unions.......yet, now we have them. In any private industry there are checks and balances... if the unions demands are too high, the company fails........ in government the unions keep demanding more and we the tax payers end up holding the bag. I guess the ultimate ballance for government unions is when our country fails.
TSA has become unionized and is one of the biggest and most powerful government union......power in so many different ways..... power to strike, power to stop travel, power to throw people in detention!
by Blitzen on 02 September 2012 - 15:09
http://prospect.org/article/insane-scenario-unfolding-our-eyes
by desert dog on 02 September 2012 - 16:09
What are you talking about. I have been a union pipe welder for 40 years. Have been a union steward for many years and worked for most larger contractors in the US. We negotiate with our local signitory contractors and come to a reasonable agreement that we both can live with. We have good work here and have enjoyed 100% employement here since Bill Clinton was in office. I am retired , have 2 sons that are both union contractors. When they need more money they work longer hours. They bid against non-union contractors, and compete on the same playing field as anyone else. There has not been a strike here in over 30 years, and that was when pipefitters were fired for refusing to install valves on a nuke plant that would not meet specs.
I am not against non-union contractors if they choose to be it is their choice and right to do so. I am against greed and shady work and bilking tax payer dollars for job cost over runs both by union and non-union contractors. You might want to look into Halliburton, Brown and Root, Bechtel, Koch, etc. and see who is nailing who.
Hank
I am not against non-union contractors if they choose to be it is their choice and right to do so. I am against greed and shady work and bilking tax payer dollars for job cost over runs both by union and non-union contractors. You might want to look into Halliburton, Brown and Root, Bechtel, Koch, etc. and see who is nailing who.
Hank
by SitasMom on 02 September 2012 - 18:09
Hank,
I was refering to government unions, not free enterprise unions. Trade unions like welders, carpenters and electricians have to compete with non-union companies when bidding on jobs and is the "balance".
Teacher unions that reward time in the ranks and not results - an example - they are government employees.
by Keith Grossman on 02 September 2012 - 20:09
"Teacher unions that reward time in the ranks and not results - an example - they are government employees."
So, sort of the same way a lot of military promotions are made?
So, sort of the same way a lot of military promotions are made?
by ShelleyR on 03 September 2012 - 02:09
Romney = Lesser of two evils. If Obama and his under-qualified cabinet are allowed 4 more years, every minute deeper in debt, this country won't stand a chance of recovering... not in my lifetime, not ever.
by Blitzen on 03 September 2012 - 11:09
It's pretty much a no-brainer to understand that no President will do well if the Senate or Congress votes 'no' to everything including bills they themselves authored during the previous administration. Romney will do no better if he has to face those same unsurmountable odds. It's not about us.
by Keith Grossman on 03 September 2012 - 22:09
"If Obama and his under-qualified cabinet..."
Just out of curiousity, what, exactly, do you think qualifies you to make that call?
Just out of curiousity, what, exactly, do you think qualifies you to make that call?
by SitasMom on 05 September 2012 - 23:09
Blitzen - Obama had a democratic controlled house and senate for the first 2 years.......they still couldn't get much passed....... don't go blaming this one the repubs...
Obama's last budget was rejected by all but a few members of both parites and the few were not present to vote...
Clinton's great wellfare reform bill was handed to him from a republic controlled senate and house.....they had to apply much pressure to get him to sign it.....now he takes great credit for it....
Bush's out of control spending started 2 years before the end of his second term and guess what - house and senate were democrat controlled...... I blame Bush for not using his pen to veto the spending bills......the guy had no balls!
Yes its more then just the prez........but please know your facts.
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