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by joanro on 23 June 2016 - 21:06

Did schools still used gold star stickers on papers to reward good work when you were a kid? That's wherethat comes from.
As for the rest of that post, go to muszlem expert who described the relation of the terrist's gayness with jhad.

by Noitsyou on 24 June 2016 - 01:06

There are probably a combination of reasons why the Orlando shooter did what he did. Would he not have done it if everything were the same but for his religion? I don't know if anyone can say that. Did being a Muslim make him hate gays? Again, I don't know as there are plenty of so called Christians who hate them as well. One who has posted on this thread thinks homosexuality is a mental illness.

My best guess is that this was a guy who was not a good person. He was not a stable person. At some point he decided to add in the Islam factor and went on a rampage. He wasn't motivated by Islam but I think it's safe to say he was influenced by Islamic terrorism. What I'm getting at is that actual terrorists, of any group, have an objective for their terrorist actions. It's not simply about killing people but killing people to achieve some goal in a larger struggle. There is often a symbolic, if not strategic, reason for choosing a target.

With that said, of course there will be future terror events that are actual terrorism. There is no way that banning Muslims or rounding them up here or watching them all will change that. We would be better served learning to live together so we can fight terrorism together. Keep in mind that ISIS kills a lot more Muslims than it does non-Muslims so it's not like "they" all think alike.


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by GSD Admin on 24 June 2016 - 04:06

Noitsyou - who here thinks gays are mentally ill? Because that person seriously needs help. Plus if it is a breeder then we have a right to know because I am sure plenty of people would not do business with someone with a mindset like that. Matter of fact if you send me a PM and let me know who said it I personally will go to ripoffreport.com and report it. And then the person can pay ripoffreport to have it removed.

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by GSD Admin on 24 June 2016 - 05:06

Hans said: LOL closet gay? HAHA. Sounds like someone is trying really hard to show that shooting was not motivated by Islam. Well in any case they are trying in vain. Because even if he was gay I still mainatain that the shame of a muslim made him do it.

 

Thats right Hans you know more than his gay lover. Can I get the winning numbers from your crystal ball? It wasn't shame that made him do it, he was crazy like all the other mass murders and by you and the pro-gun people sitting on your hands and actually advocating for more guns you are in a sense a part of the problem. Did you know he searched out psychotic drugs so he must have felt he was losing it. He was crazy whether he was Muslim or not. Plenty/most Muslims do not like ISIS.

So, you are good then with Muslims being allowed to emigrate to the US? And if not then you are lumping them together. And it appears from your statements that is exactly what you are doing. Were you born in America? How did you come to be an American, are you even an American citizen and can you prove it? Can we see your birth certificate? Funny how that works huh? Maybe you are actually a closet communist?

 

"GSDAdmi: You cannot lump all Muslims into extremists.

Prager: I am not. Why are you? This one is worn out , but still truth: Not all Muslims are terrorists but most terrorists these days are Muslims."

This statement wasn't directed at you so not sure why you felt the need to make it about you - oh forget it, everything is about you.And so we are clear because you don't seem to be clear, I have never lumped them together but you on the other hand well that is a different story. Define terrorism - do you consider the theater shooting terrorism? How about abortion drs who have been shot? What about Sandy Hook? I say if it elicts terror then no matter the cause it is terror. Ask the people in those towns if they felt terrorized. Or you could just pull out that crystal ball and tell us how others feel.

 

He was gay there seems to be little doubt about that so if he was gay then how did ISIS support him? Surely he must have known it would come out and in all actuality it makes ISIS look like shit, them supporting a gay man and all. Can you get that crystal ball out and tell me how ISIS feels right now knowing the man they praised was actually gay?

 

Look another gay man has said Mateen was gay. But keep rubbing that crystal ball Hans because you know it all. http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/283366-orlando-shooters-classmate-he-was-gay

http://www.thehindubusinessline.com/news/world/orlando-shooter-might-have-been-gay-exwife/article8728211.ece


by joanro on 24 June 2016 - 12:06

Oh, goodie! The thought crime gustapo has arrived on pdb off topic forum to slander and smear people he doesn't know.....at least we will find the identity of the gestapo, who sounds like a nut case.

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by GSD Admin on 24 June 2016 - 14:06

lol, you never smeared anyone on this forum ever have you? You attacked Hans for months on end. You followed around numerous people until they finally left. Does Blitzen ring a bell? And then you have the audacity to report member after member with the report abuse link. Grow up. Reminds of the little tattle tales at school. You have said you are leaving here like a 100 times and yet here you are smearing people and pretending to be so hurt, hypocrite. And I surely hope you are talking about me because if you are talking about mrdarcy well you are not in a good position. See I can take it, you can't. A little pressure on you and you turn and run. But you go ahead keep pushing, keep whining, keep turning in members who disagree with you, keep acting like a victim. I have enough right now to ban you as racism is a no no here but you don't care. So carry on.

Prager

by Prager on 24 June 2016 - 14:06

Tu quoque or the appeal to hypocrisy is an informal logical fallacy that intends to discredit the validity of the opponent's logical argument by asserting the opponent's failure to act consistently in accordance with its conclusion(s)......

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tu_quoque


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by GSD Admin on 24 June 2016 - 14:06

Are you an American citizen?

Prager

by Prager on 24 June 2016 - 17:06

@GSDadmin

1. I must have missed it. Where did Joan made a racist statement.
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2.You are right I had my issues with Joan . But in back of my mind she was always my friend. Hard to understand, I know. I remember good for ever and forgive the negative. If she would call me for help there is no way I would ever refused her. But my MO is once friend always a friend. Regardless of disagreements. For example I will never forget that you were nice to me when I came here to post after some hiatus.
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3.What does me being or not being American citizen has to do with topic of Orlando shooting?


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by GSD Admin on 24 June 2016 - 18:06

Because it goes to your stance on immigration. As far as Joan goes I am not the only one who thinks her statements posts lean toward xenophobia if not closet racism. This is an international site with many many Arab members. Just supporting a racist has to become reason to in some kind of subconsciense level mean that is okay with a person.





 


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