Poor trump - Page 5

We-e-l-l, he didn't actually SAY "America 'gave' women votes", did he now ? He said women "got" the vote. Actually there are a few home truths about the USA's place in the world made there that I would not disagree with.
Granted, however, that he has a very unfortunate manner in putting his points across ! And I am sorry that his "2 wrongs CAN make a right" approach comes from an English mouth. I never heard of him; must be one of the new generation of stand-ups I have lost touch with in my old age. If he continues to present in that manner I suspect he'll never get popular enough for many of us to have heard of him.

But (Red) nothing in that vid supports your NWO / end of time predictions & theories, so I assume you just added it for political 'balance' ? Thought you didn't 'do' politics ?

Of course America, and the West in general, are a lot better places for humans to live in than a lot of other countries out there. The thing I don't like is the idea that an American can't be critical of his own country because America is better than Somalia. It's a stupid argument that doesn't even make sense. Imagine if blacks during the period between the Civil War and the Civil Rights Acts were told not to complain because it could be worse; they could be starving in Africa or even slaves in Africa. What if women who were behind the suffrage movement were told it could be worse; they could be in Muslim nation that follows Sharia law. I wonder if the British told the Founding Fathers that it could be worse; they had it better than the Indians, Irish indentured servants or African slaves.

Notitsyou: America didn't end slavery. That took a war.


Hans : So who ended the slavery in America? Martians? Who fought in that war? Americans. Seems like that would mean that America ended slavery by war under leadership of republican Abe Lincoln. I can not wait how you going to twist this. I am sure you'll do great job.

Here let me help you. While yes Abe was a republican, the parties flip flopped and Abe would be considered more liberal than conservative. Do you need links to explain this to you or are you going to go about thinking the republicans ended slavery so as to help yourself feel better? I know you say you are libertarian but my bet is you vote for the racist. 60% of the republican party also believe Trump is a racist. Since you can't see it, maybe better glasses might help.

LOL you pull "you are racist" card on this? Now that is really funny. Can you say anything else besides calling people racist? In my opinion democrats are the one who are fundamentally racists. They want keep minorities down so that they can provide for them welfare so that poor minorities would vote for them. If the minorities would be uplifted then democrats would be out of business. Do you really think that that is what they want? be out of business making handsome income from peddling welfare ?
And Lincoln being liberal? Well let me help you. Same as great wizard dragon KKK kalabunga Robert Byrd democrat senator When Byrd was 24-years-old, he joined the Klan because he was worried that during World War II, he might have to fight alongside “race mongrels, a throwback to the blackest specimen from the wilds.” Bryd wrote those words in 1944 to Sen. Theodore Bilbo, a staunch segregationist. Also democrat.  

Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2016/02/29/flashback-hillary-clinton-praised-former-kkk-member-sen-robert-byrd-video/#ixzz4FUK82cb3
The KKK was founded in Tennessee immediately after the end of the Civil War as a sort of social club for former Confederate Soldiers whose influence quickly spread through the impoverished Southern states. They were mostly democrats. Southern democrats. In 1868, the Klan elected its first Grand Wizard, Nathaniel Bedford Forrest. ( remember Forest Gump movie?) Decades later, his grandson wrote in the September 1928 issue of the Klan’s Kourier Magazine:

I have never voted for any man who was not a regular Democrat. My father … never voted for any man who was not a Democrat. My grandfather was …the head of the Ku Klux Klan in reconstruction days…. My great-grandfather was a life-long Democrat…. My great-great-grandfather was…one of the founders of the Democratic party.
Or what about your president Lyndon B Johnson DEMOCRAT. Who operated exactly in the spirit as I am describing it above Lyndon Johnson was a civil rights hero. But also a racist. Mississippi Democrat James Eastland, who committed most of his life to defending white supremacy too. All Gore sr.too.  And on and on. L B J was famous for calling Civil rights act :"N" bill. That is a matter of record. After the Civil Rights Act pushed by LBJ democrat was passed,...  LBJ the democrat said:
LBJ, “Now I’ll Have Those N*ggers Voting Democratic for the Next 200 Years” THAT is what it is all about . Votes. 

Nothing changed since then. It is about economy. I mean do you really think that Hillary wants to help minorities and be out of business spreading welfare and while enriching themselves and rather then to get elected and get few more milliards into her mattress. And yes I am Libertarian and I think Trump is too liberal for me,... but better then Hillary who wants to keep blacks down so that she can get rich of it.

Okay, are the republicans for smaller or larger government? BTW, the race card is relavent to any discussion about slavery and the republican party of Trump.

republicans and democrats who care? democrats are running the country over the cliff 100Mph and republicans 80 Mph while useful idiots or some call them  useful naive are clapping. Not much difference. I hope that Trump will turn the country away from cliff. But how or if he does it  remains to be seen.

Generally republicans are against larger government. The republicans of Abe's day wanted much larger government. The democrats much smaller government in Abe's time. So, there was a kind of switch in the parties with the republicans wanting smaller government and the democrats trying to expand government. Yes, there are democratic racists, no one has ever denied it and especially not me. The states that most opposed the end to slavery, civil rights, woman's rights and gay marriage are the same states that have voted republican for years. You tell me? Whether your racist family was democrat or republican in that time period is immaterial to what has happened over the last 50 years and what is happening now. No human should be discriminated against whether they are black, Mexican, Islamic or gay. Honestly in the last 100 years I don't think the republicans can say all men are created equal by what they have supported.

While you claim that Lincoln Republican was basically liberal he basically truly wanted free the blacks as a moral issue . While I am not defending republicans ( I am libertarian) I am sick when democrats constantly acting holier than thou and call others racists where at best they are not any different and really rather they are worse.
Here are some quotes from famous DEMOCRATS from civil war era:

“Instead of restoring the Union, it [the Republican Party] has, so far as in its power, dissolved it, and subjected ten states, in time of profound peace, to military despotism and Negro supremacy.”

–Platform of the Democratic Party, 1868

“My fellow citizens, I have said that the contest before us was one for the restoration of our government; it is also one for the restoration of our race. It is to prevent the people of our race from being exiled from their homes–exiled from the government which they formed and created for themselves and for their children, and to prevent them from being driven out of the country or trodden under foot by an inferior and barbarous race.”

–Francis P. Blair Jr., accepting the Democratic nomination for Vice President, 1868 Democratic Senator from Missouri, 1869-72His statue stands in the U.S. Capitol.

“I hold that the present state of civilization, where two races of different origin, and distinguished by color, and other physical differences, as well as intellectual, are brought together, the relation now existing in the slaveholding states between the two, is, instead of an evil, a good–a positive good.”

–Sen. John C. Calhoun (D., S.C.), 1837 Vice President, 1825-32
His statue stands in the U.S. Capitol.

“Resolved, That the Democratic Party will resist all attempts at renewing, in Congress or out of it, the agitation of the slavery question, under whatever shape or color the attempt may be made.”

–Platform of the Democratic Party, 1852

Blacks are “a subordinate and inferior class of beings who had been subjugated by the dominant race.”

–Chief Justice Roger Taney, Dred Scott v. Sandford, 1856 Appointed Attorney General by Andrew Jackson in 1831 Appointed Secretary of the Treasury by Andrew Jackson in 1833 Appointed to the Supreme Court by Andrew Jackson in 1836

“Resolved, That claiming fellowship with, and desiring the co-operation of all who regard the preservation of the Union under the Constitution as the paramount issue–and repudiating all sectional parties and platforms concerning domestic slavery, which seek to embroil the States and incite to treason and armed resistance to law in the Territories; and whose avowed purposes, if consummated, must end in civil war and disunion, the American Democracy recognize and adopt the principles contained in the organic laws establishing the Territories of Kansas and Nebraska as embodying the only sound and safe solution of the ‘slavery question’ upon which the great national idea of the people of this whole country can repose in its determined conservatism of the Union–NON-INTERFERENCE BY CONGRESS WITH SLAVERY IN STATE AND TERRITORY, OR IN THE DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA” (emphasis in original).

–Platform of the Democratic Party, 1856

“I hold that a Negro is not and never ought to be a citizen of the United States. I hold that this government was made on the white basis; made by the white men, for the benefit of white men and their posterity forever, and should be administered by white men and none others.”

–Sen. Stephen A. Douglas (D., Ill.), 1858 Presidential nominee of the Democratic Party, 1860

“Resolved, That the enactments of the State Legislatures to defeat the faithful execution of the Fugitive Slave Law, are hostile in character, subversive of the Constitution, and revolutionary in their effect.”

–Platform of the Democratic Party, 1860

“The Almighty has fixed the distinction of the races; the Almighty has made the black man inferior, and, sir, by no legislation, by no military power, can you wipe out this distinction.”

–Rep. Fernando Wood (D., N.Y.), 1865 Mayor of New York City, 1855-58, 1860-62




“While the tendency of the white race is upward, the tendency of the colored race is downward.”

–Sen. Thomas Hendricks (D., Ind.), 1869 Democratic nominee for Vice President, 1876 Vice President, 1885

“We, the delegates of the Democratic party of the United States . . . demand such modification of the treaty with the Chinese Empire, or such legislation within constitutional limitations, as shall prevent further importation or immigration of the Mongolian race.”

–Platform of the Democratic Party, 1876

GSDAdmin:" No human should be discriminated against whether they are black, Mexican, Islamic or gay."
Hans: You do not get fight from me on this one. As I said I am Libertarian. I am   against discrimination more then any democrat or republican. Personally when Democrats and Republicans hate Trump and subsequently because Trump is doing well that cautiously comforts me . .