birth certificates?!? - Page 5

Pedigree Database

Premium classified

This is a placeholder text
Group text

Premium classified

This is a placeholder text
Group text

Premium classified

This is a placeholder text
Group text

Premium classified

This is a placeholder text
Group text

by SitasMom on 30 April 2011 - 18:04

ziegenfarm - more, i want to see more....LOL

by beetree on 30 April 2011 - 18:04

Let's ask this simple question? Who can obtain a US PASSPORT? Answer: A US citizen.
 
Consider any hypothetical child  A. They can only leave and return to the US with a Passport, the USA gave him a passport because he WAS born in the USA.  And he proved it with, a certified copy of his BIRTH certificate complete with a raised seal.

This child can one day become POTUS! It is true!


Remember too, why Henry Kissenger never could?


ziegenfarm

by ziegenfarm on 30 April 2011 - 19:04

LOL......sitasmom, i have a couple more saved to my computer.

as far as passports go, obama could not have entered pakistan on a usa visa at the time that he was there.  he would have had to use a UK one.  (while in college)

all i have to say about the "birther" remarks is that this is about a whole lot more than a piece of paper.  if they think that we are that shallow and that this is only about the birth certificate, they are very very wrong.
pjp

by beetree on 30 April 2011 - 19:04

Yes, it is shallow because the point is moot. He already is POTUS and no amount of disbelief on the "birthers" will change that. And even if that is the strength of an argument for eligibility, once again, it is flimsy and absolutely emotional and is being used as an excuse. I just wonder why there are so many people who want to waste their energies on something so pointless?

by SitasMom on 30 April 2011 - 19:04

Citizen or Natural-Born Citizen

the constitution stipulates Natural-Born Citizen 

they wouldn't have put that phrase in there unless it meant something special...

like being a citizen who was born of 2 parents both being citizens.

the intent was to make sure that the president didn't have any foreign alliances to - say the country of his birth, and so that the president. also for the president to be familiar with our laws and customs.

if the requirement were only a citizen, then someone could move into the states at 25 years, become a citizen and then president by 50 - having preferences to his homeland...

by beetree on 30 April 2011 - 19:04

Duh, he is naturally born of the womb in the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. Nothing extra special about it.... very simply an act of birth on a particular soil.

The reason was a loyalty of place ONLY, you add on lots of garbage.

by SitasMom on 30 April 2011 - 22:04

beetree - i knew this concept was too complicated for you.......

to be a "natural born citizen", both parents must be citizens of the united states...... LIKE DUH!


by beetree on 30 April 2011 - 22:04

NO WAY JOSE! You just are sooooo wrong.

Pudding, proof, that kind of stuff. We couldn't exist as a country if you applied your self gratifying version. The native American Indian population should just give us all the big ass boot we deserve (invading white man,  I mean.). Explain your cockamamie version to them why don't you?  

 


by SitasMom on 30 April 2011 - 23:04

it all started when the 14th amendment was signed into law..... thought we already went over this.

the 14th amendment is the one that states what a citizen is.... that was just after the civil war....


 

Natural-born American citizens are those born of American citizen parents, within or without the American Republic, provided in the latter case that one of the parents had resided in the United States prior to the birth of the child.
Their American citizenship is natural, the result of parentage, and not artificial or acquired by compliance with legislative provisions. A natural-born citizen is one not made by law or otherwise, but born. And this class is the large majority, in fact, the mass of our citizens; all others are exceptions specially provided for by law.
 

 


by beetree on 30 April 2011 - 23:04

And you can go over this until the cows come home: OBAMA IS POTUS . If Clinton couldn't get impeached for getting his oval world rocked well Obama isn't going to get impeached because of where his mama broke water.

Geeze. find a more profitable cause.





 


Contact information  Disclaimer  Privacy Statement  Copyright Information  Terms of Service  Cookie policy  ↑ Back to top